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orolan Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 363 Joined: Dec 25^th, 2002	Re: Advice about failed poly Apr 25^th, 2003 at 4:19pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Ally, Welcome to the world of polygraph victims. I think you should let the background investigator know you believe you are the victim of a "false-positive" regarding drug usage and challenge him/her to find any evidence to the contrary.

	"Most of the things worth doing in the world had been declared impossible before they were done." &&U.S. Supreme Court Justice Louis D. Brandeis
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Fred F. Very Senior User Offline Get Educated.... Knowledge is Power Posts: 225 Joined: Apr 4^th, 2001	Re: Advice about failed poly Reply #1 - Apr 26^th, 2003 at 3:05am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Ally wrote on Apr 25^th, 2003 at 7:43am: I have taken a poly for LAPD and past. Just completed one at LVMPD and failed. I have never ever taken any drugs in my life. Not even tried smoking. They failed me because they believed I was lying about my drug use. Ally, Congratulations on passing your LAPD polygraph. You are in an elite group of people. The biggest issue that I see coming out of this is LAPD finding out that the LVMPD poly found you deceptive. I am assuming that you disclosed this information on your PHQ with each dept. If you didn't and LAPD discovers you failed the LV poly, you may get DQ'ed from LAPD processing for not disclosing information on your processing with LVMPD. You should download and read The Lie Behind The Lie Detector. The wealth of information that the book provides will be invaluable to you if the worst case scenario does occur and you are found "deceptive". It will also give you insight to the pseudoscience of polygraphy and how you can better prepare yourself by knowing how polygraphy works. Good Luck and GET EDUCATED......KNOWLEDGE IS POWER!! Fred F.
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Fed1 Guest	Re: Advice about failed poly Reply #2 - Apr 27^th, 2003 at 5:12am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	More advice from annonymous idiots - all citing George's grade school report on polys. Well, at least it's free!!!


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George W. Maschke Global Moderator Offline Make-believe science yields make-believe security. Posts: 6220 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Re: Advice about failed poly Reply #3 - Apr 27^th, 2003 at 5:43am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Fed1, Could you explain why any of the advice given above should be disregarded? As for The Lie Behind the Lie Detector, if there is anything in it that you believe to be untrue or misleading, why not explain?

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orolan Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 363 Joined: Dec 25^th, 2002	Re: Advice about failed poly Reply #4 - Apr 27^th, 2003 at 4:14pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Fed1, Anonymous?? We are all registered, with valid e-mail addresses. And guess what! We can SPELL.

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triple x Very Senior User Offline Fear what you cannot see... Posts: 209 Location: USA Joined: Oct 16^th, 2002 Gender:	Re: Advice about failed poly Reply #5 - Apr 27^th, 2003 at 5:18pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Fed1, You wrote: Quote: More advice from annonymous idiots - all citing George's grade school report on polys. Well, at least it's free!!! 1) Anonymous is spelled with one "n", not two. 2) George's "grade school report" is accurate, ethical, and not misleading, unlike polygraph testing. Please point out any error's you may have noted. 3) "TLBTLD" is free. Unlike most things this day and age; and your point is...?? With respect to your remark about "advise from anonymous idiots"... it appears that you Fed1, are too an anonymous idiot; and seemingly, the biggest idiot of them all... Perhaps a name change would be the appropriate thing for you to do at this juncture. I suggest: Fed1, "Lord of all Idiots" triple x


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steincj Very Senior User Offline Posts: 103 Joined: Dec 8^th, 2002 Gender:	Re: Advice about failed poly Reply #6 - Apr 29^th, 2003 at 5:32am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: More advice from annonymous idiots - all citing George's grade school report on polys. Well, at least it's free!!! I love when we are all blamed for trying to help others with information we "know" will only hurt them, and then hide with our anonymity. When will you guys give up this pathetic argument? I bet my username of "steincj" will throw Fed1 for a loop. If he puts 2 and 2 together, he would see that I am the same person as "CPT Christopher J. Stein" on the Personal Statements page. That level of inference might be a little much for Fed1 to handle, so, Fed1, I'm still posting with anonymity, so continue your little tantrum. And of course, I can call you a hypocrite as well, because you aren't even registered, let alone using your own name. Unless your mom was really mean and DID name you "Fed1." Too bad she didn't have the foresight to name you FedZero. Chris a.k.a CPT Christopher J. Stein a.ka. steincj PS -- posting without anonymity has caused me grief with the FBI. I guess they aren't aware of this thing known as the "First Amendment." But hell, to them I am a spy, so they just expect me to give out information that I'm not supposed to.


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triple x Very Senior User Offline Fear what you cannot see... Posts: 209 Location: USA Joined: Oct 16^th, 2002 Gender:	Re: Advice about failed poly Reply #7 - Apr 30^th, 2003 at 2:03am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Chris, I completely agree with your position on this issue 100%. However; unlike yourself, I cannot openly acknowledge my personal interest, support and afflation with Antipolygraph.org in similar fashion due to the significant risk of adverse consequences. Within my line of work with the Defense Dept; {DoD} we provide diverse levels of classified mission support to various federal agencies to include various branches of the US Military. Openly identifying myself publicly on this website, and/or any other for that matter, would result unfavorably [at best] with respect to my career. I feel confidant that the same concern is shared by other registered members on this board to include a number of Federal/State/County polygraphers; whom so eloquently enlighten and entertain us. Respectfully, triple x
	« Last Edit: Apr 30^th, 2003 at 3:51am by triple x »

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