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billybob1234 New User Offline Posts: 7 Joined: Apr 14^th, 2003	poly in less than a week Apr 15^th, 2003 at 2:36am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I have a poly at the end of week for a police dept. I have had 2 other tests. The first one I was accused of something I had never done and failed. The second I went over the top with the countermeasures. The examiner told me I failed and the test was unscoreable. I have bettered my countermeasures since but my question is: Should I try the honesty apporach and tell the examiner the truth and run the risk of him testing me and failing me saying I used countermeasures or should I keep my mouth shut and use countermeasures? billybob


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orolan Especially Senior User Offline Posts: 363 Joined: Dec 25^th, 2002	Re: poly in less than a week Reply #1 - Apr 15^th, 2003 at 3:08am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	billybob1234, I assume first of all that you used the "honesty approach" on the first one, so you know where that got you. On the second one, I am confused about the examiner's choice of words. In order to "fail" a polygraph, it must first be scoreable. A test that can't be scored is "inconclusive". If you are going to have the same examiner you had the previous two times, good luck. Odds are you will continue to be failed or found inconclusive until you make some "admission" so he can justify his job. Properly executed, countermeasures can't be detected. I would practice up and try again. You have nothing to lose.

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billybob1234 New User Offline Posts: 7 Joined: Apr 14^th, 2003	Re: poly in less than a week Reply #2 - Apr 15^th, 2003 at 3:13am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	the first 2 tests were with the same dept but different examiners thats probaly why i was accused the 2nd time the 3rd test different dept with different guy. billybob


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no_sugar_coating New User Offline Posts: 20 Joined: May 3^rd, 2003	Re: poly in less than a week Reply #3 - May 3^rd, 2003 at 6:07pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	You can try countermeasures all you want. It does not matter b/c you will be caught. If you have committed a DQ crime then you don't need to be a police officer. Go find another line of work.


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George W. Maschke Global Moderator Offline Make-believe science yields make-believe security. Posts: 6220 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Re: poly in less than a week Reply #4 - May 3^rd, 2003 at 7:23pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	No Sugar Coating, Actually, there is no evidence that polygraphers can reliably detect the kinds of countermeasures described in The Lie Behind the Lie Detector. If you believe that you have this ability, you might want to be the first to accept Dr. Richardson's polygraph countermeasure challenge.

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