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guest Guest	does IRS polygraph Mar 1^st, 2003 at 8:45pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Does the IRS Criminal Investigation Divsion polygraph?


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Fred F. Very Senior User Offline Get Educated.... Knowledge is Power Posts: 225 Joined: Apr 4^th, 2001	Re: does IRS polygraph Reply #1 - Mar 2^nd, 2003 at 2:35am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: Does the IRS Criminal Investigation Divsion polygraph? Guest, Here is the link to the IRS Special Agent website www.treas.gov/irs/ci/recruit/index.htm. It doesn't appear that they use the polygraph. The site also provides contact numbers for your area to speak with a special agent who handles recruiting. Good Luck Fred F.


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spravel Guest	Re: does IRS polygraph Reply #2 - Mar 12^th, 2003 at 3:04am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	NO, the IRS-CID does not polygraph.


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hmmmhhh Guest	Re: does IRS polygraph Reply #3 - Mar 14^th, 2003 at 8:28am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	so if you failed an FBI polygraph and the employment process ended there, chances are they would ask if you ever applied for and were rejected for a job with another agency. I wonder if they would care. I think most IRS CID are frustrated FBI applicants so I dont think there is any love between the agencies. IT doesnt really matter, they arent hiring anyways.


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steincj Very Senior User Offline Posts: 103 Joined: Dec 8^th, 2002 Gender:	Re: does IRS polygraph Reply #4 - Mar 15^th, 2003 at 9:14pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: so if you failed an FBI polygraph and the employment process ended there, chances are they would ask if you ever applied for and were rejected for a job with another agency. I wonder if they would care. I think most IRS CID are frustrated FBI applicants so I dont think there is any love between the agencies. IT doesnt really matter, they arent hiring anyways. Dear hmmmhhh, I can't speak ofr the IRS CID, but I can tell you had the same scenario regarding the FBI and US customs. After failing the FBI polygraph, I spoke wit the applicant coordiantor for customs. He assured me that the FBI poly would not be an issure for Cusstoms. But the initial application did indeed ask about other agencies. After answering that application honesly, I have heard nothing from Customs. (see my personal statement for more detail) Chris


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guest Guest	Re: does IRS polygraph Reply #5 - Mar 28^th, 2003 at 7:00am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	what if you had the interview already and they want to hire you but they ran out of money, which they did. I looked in the backround forms they gave me at the interview and it asks the following: your investigation record question A has the us govt ever investigated your backround and or granted you security clearence. you can answer yes or no and then it says, if your response is no or you dont know or cant recall if you were investigated and cleared check the no box. question b to your knowledge have you ever had a clearence or access authorization denied, suspended, or revoked or have you ever been debarred from govt employment. Was I ever really investigated if all they did was the polygraph on you. To me investigation means actually talking to people and such. the polygraph isnt really a background investigation right ? I sound like bill clinton now, what does is mean?


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steincj Very Senior User Offline Posts: 103 Joined: Dec 8^th, 2002 Gender:	Re: does IRS polygraph Reply #6 - Mar 28^th, 2003 at 8:29am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: question b to your knowledge have you ever had a clearence or access authorization denied, suspended, or revoked or have you ever been debarred from govt employment. Was I ever really investigated if all they did was the polygraph on you. To me investigation means actually talking to people and such. the polygraph isnt really a background investigation right ? I sound like bill clinton now, what does is mean? Dear guest, I just recently filled out my TS PR EPSQ, and the very same question as question b appeared on it. I, having failed an FBI polygraph, answered yes to the question, as failing the FBI poly has debarred me from employment with them. No, the polygraph is far from a background investigation, but as I have shown you, the government does let it carry some weight. For me, it will be the DoD's DSS up against the DoJ's polygraph to see if I will get my Top Secret back. And if I do, I think Torpedo should buy me a big steak dinner. NY Strip, medium rare, or maybe Prime Rib, with some fresh horseradish. Mmm, yes. That sounds good, I can taste it already. What do you say, Torpedo? Does this sink or swim with you? Chris


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guest Guest	Re: does IRS polygraph Reply #7 - Mar 28^th, 2003 at 11:39pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	So maybe i should just say no and if they come back, say i didnt understand sorry, i wonder if they even check with the fbi?


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steincj Very Senior User Offline Posts: 103 Joined: Dec 8^th, 2002 Gender:	Re: does IRS polygraph Reply #8 - Mar 31^st, 2003 at 8:39pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: So maybe i should just say no and if they come back, say i didnt understand sorry, i wonder if they even check with the fbi? guest, The WORST thing you can do is lie on the backgrond investigation forms. That will get you instantly nixed -- trust me, I used to process security clearances when I was in the Army. I guess you can do what I did and hope for the best. Say yes to question b, and biefly expalin your situation in the remarks section of the questionnaire (provided it has one). I wish I had a better suggestion for you. Unfortunately, I am believing in the system and having faith that a background investigator will laugh when he sees the failed FBI poly. But my fear is that some computer will spit out REJECT somewhere, and human eyes will never cross it. Here's to faith in people . . . Chris


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