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Reply #90 - Jul 8th, 2005 at 9:30am
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I dealt with Ed Gelb today.

Unfortunately, I didn't get polygraphed. I was hoping to see what all the fuss is about.

As far as him seeming arrogant or something, he seemed nicer than most cops I've dealt with.
As far as the "Diploma mill" stuff, either he is a PhD, or he isn't.


If you think he is a fraud, or not a PhD, then say it.


He has been in some pretty high profile cases, and I'm sure his background has been scrutinized a lot better, by people a lot more qualified than you folks.
A lot of you sound bitter, because you lied, and failed.
There are a lot of steps in the "weeding out" phase of law enforcement.
Even if you made it through the polygraph stage, you more than likely would have failed in other areas.
And from the looks of the whining, failure doesn't seem like it's anything new to some of you.
  
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Reply #91 - Jul 8th, 2005 at 10:16pm
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With a stupid name like "Prick" it's no wonder he makes such a stupid post, and it's no wonder why he chooses such a stupid profession ad polygraphy.

Here is the problem Prick; polygraphy relies on fear. The polygraph experience is in and of itself intimidating to those who are unfamiliar with it.  There is no presumption of innocence but rather a presumption of guilt! You know that to be true!

If a subject during a pre-employment polygraph answers all questions honestly, as instructed by the lying polygrapher, that person has a very good chance of failing the test or showing inconclusive, (in which case they are NOT given the benefit of the doubt)

There are many reasons why a person could show a reaction to a question that have nothing to do with deception...and you know this, Prick. Showing strong reactions alone, in the absence of damaging admissions means nothing, Prick.

It's you and people like Nonombre who choose a profession where you try to catch people in lies and deny them their dreams who are very sad and vindictive people. Who would choose such a field?? What do you tell people you meet at social gatherings you do for a living? Are you even invited to social gatherings?

You, in the polygraph profession choose to be in a field that is proven to be very flawed and as a result; falsely accuses innocent people of guilt and denys honest & law abiding people jobs they deserve.

Stop lying to people by telling them to just be truthful and don't apply CM's and everything will be okay. I would love for there to be a lye whereas all polygraphers were made to pass a polygraph.....oh wait, they would all pass because they know how to beat that junk machine... Cheesy
  
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Reply #92 - Jul 9th, 2005 at 1:18am
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Matty wrote on Jul 8th, 2005 at 10:16pm:
It's you and people like Nonombre who choose a profession where you try to catch people in lies and deny them their dreams who are very sad and vindictive people. Who would choose such a field?? What do you tell people you meet at social gatherings you do for a living? Are you even invited to social gatherings?


Yes,

I am frequently invited to social gatherings.

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Reply #93 - Jul 9th, 2005 at 1:45am
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nonombre wrote on Jul 9th, 2005 at 1:18am:
Yes,

I am frequently invited to social gatherings.

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Reply #94 - Jul 9th, 2005 at 1:54am
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Jeffery wrote on Jul 9th, 2005 at 1:45am:
The policemen's ball and police retirement's don't count.


I pulled security duty at a Grass Roots concert once.  How about that?


  
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Reply #95 - Jul 9th, 2005 at 2:02am
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As much fun as the three previous posts may be, I have to ask what they have to do with polygraph?
  
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Reply #96 - Jul 9th, 2005 at 2:37am
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As much fun as the three previous posts may be, I have to ask what they have to do with polygraph?


Aw, lighten up "Francis."


  
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Reply #97 - Jul 9th, 2005 at 3:01am
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oops...you're right.  I must have temporarily thought I was logged onto the polygraphplace message board.  Absolutely no humor allowed there.      Tongue
  
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Reply #98 - Jul 9th, 2005 at 3:36am
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oops...you're right.  I must have temporarily thought I was logged onto the polygraphplace message board.  Absolutely no humor allowed there.      Tongue


Seriously,

Sometimes it is okay to back up and take a short break from all this.  Humour is not a bad way to do that.  You see, not all polygraph examiner's are "a-- holes," and not all anti-poly guys are "losers."  I for one am always willing to listen and to keep an open mind.

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Reply #99 - Jul 9th, 2005 at 3:48am
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nonombre wrote on Jul 9th, 2005 at 1:54am:
I pulled security duty at a Grass Roots concert once.  How about that?

Were you moonlighting doing security work?  Proves my point; a polygrapher's social outlets are with cops or doing cop type work.

Do polygraphers have any normal, non-cop friends?  What do you tell those people about what you do for a living?
  
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Reply #100 - Jul 9th, 2005 at 4:41am
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Jeffery wrote on Jul 9th, 2005 at 3:48am:
Were you moonlighting doing security work?  Proves my point; a polygrapher's social outlets are with cops or doing cop type work.

Do polygraphers have any normal, non-cop friends?  What do you tell those people about what you do for a living?


Actually I have quite few 'normal, non-cop friends."  I have taught part time at a community college, am active in my community,  and when I tell people I am a polygraph examiner, most are quite fascinated.

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Reply #101 - Jul 9th, 2005 at 5:24am
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nonombre wrote on Jul 9th, 2005 at 4:41am:
Actually I have quite few 'normal, non-cop friends."  I have taught part time at a community college, am active in my community,  and when I tell people I am a polygraph examiner, most are quite fascinated.

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Probably because they are too ignorant to know any better, and actually think that it is a "lie detector." Which would make sense because fools hang out with fools. Cheesy

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Reply #102 - Jul 9th, 2005 at 6:02am
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anxietyguy wrote on Jul 9th, 2005 at 5:24am:
Probably because they are too ignorant to know any better, and actually think that it is a "lie detector." Which would make sense because fools hang out with fools. Cheesy

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Not very nice, are you?


  
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Reply #103 - Jul 9th, 2005 at 9:06am
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Nonombre,

Believe it or not my job probably brings questions such as yours.  When I mention what I do for a living I recieve interest as well.  I work with persons of the post-mortem type.  Always a party topic much as yours.  I have noticed more of an interest in the sensational news stories much as you most likely have noticed regarding your profession.  Forgive my mortician-like humor but I come by it naturally.  However, my current employment is not as contraversial as yours.  I find they die you find they lie.  Mine is a more exact science.
  
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Reply #104 - Jul 9th, 2005 at 3:44pm
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Nonombre,

Believe it or not my job probably brings questions such as yours.  When I mention what I do for a living I recieve interest as well.  I work with persons of the post-mortem type.  Always a party topic much as yours.  I have noticed more of an interest in the sensational news stories much as you most likely have noticed regarding your profession.  Forgive my mortician-like humor but I come by it naturally.  However, my current employment is not as contraversial as yours.  I find they die you find they lie.  Mine is a more exact science.



Brandon,

I must agree with you on this.  Your science is MUCH more exact that mine, more accurate, more reliable, and even with greater utility.  After all, by the time you see the subject, he is definately DEAD.  No contraversy, no false positives or negatives, no anti-post mortum websites, no  death countermeasures, and no need for the dead to confess as to their physiological state.

I sort of envy you

Nonombre.  Roll Eyes
  
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