Batman wrote on Nov 17
th, 2002 at 1:08am:
Hey Pecker-Head, you wanna step outside?
A fine example of defending your position. When your platform crumbles around you, resort to violence. Nicely done.
Quote:Beech, do you hate me because I administer polygraph examinations, or because I don't agree with George, or simply because I don't take all this crap as serious as you?
Hate you? I don't hate you. If I gave you any thought I might though.
Isn't it sad that a simple dilletante of the travesty of polygraphy takes it more seriously han a self-professed expert, one who actually makes his living in the career of lying to others?
Quote:That's your problem, or more accurately, one of your problems. You think that everyone who posts here takes this stuff as serious as you do, therefore you swing first, ask questions later.
Psychoanalysis now? Was it in Week Seven or Week Eight of polygraph school that you earned your degree in psychoanalysis? Perchance you have some inkblots I can look at as well.
I take the debate seriously. In fact I lead a fulfilling life away from this debate, but that doesn't stop me from illustrating the very real harm men like you cause to our society.
Quote:You say you want to have an intellectual debate about polygraph, however it is evident that nothing will change your point of view, so what's the point in debating.
In fact I have modified my position somewhat since I first started posting here. Both pro-polygraph and anti-polygraph types have convinced me that certain uses of the polygraph are useful for their 'utility', i.e., tricking confessions out of the guilty. It's clear however that said utility is NEVER enough for your type, and you are always seeking to use the charted results of the interrogation in a myriad of abusive ways. Did he pass the polygraph? Seek to exclude or trash the results. Seek to smear the polygrapher himself (remember Gary Condit? Like I've said before, it's so sad when you guys eat one of your own.) Did he fail the polygraph? Seek to include the results. Was the polygraph inconclusive? Seek to characterize it as a failure anyway. Didn't get the results you wanted? Polygraph 'em again. And again. And again. To conclude on this particular topic, I debate when a contrary position is raised by 'your side'-- I do this for the disinterested or vacillating third party who read these discussions. I already know how you or your type will answer. [See your next thought for proof]
Quote:All you want to do is charge at the fence, so I chose to stand outside the fence and poke you with a stick.
Yes, you've made it abundantly clear the reasons why you've inserted yourself in these discussions is to ridicule, prevaricate, obfuscate, and generally be a nuisance. That's fine, I suppose that could be considered great fun by a small-minded man so I'll let you have your sport. But don't you find it just a little hypocritical to then take the moral highground and lament that I won't debate you? Perhaps not, as you've shown your relationship to the truth is somewhat tenous anyway. Do you lie to your employers with the same joyous abandon that you lie to your interrogation subjects? How does the 'Dentist Simile' fly with your bosses when they catch you stretching and torturing the truth with them? Or do you only feel comfortable lying to the citizens you're sworn to protect and serve?
B.M., I allow you to believe you're rattling the cage because to do so furthers my agenda-- namely by illustrating that nine times out of ten it's a creep like you sitting across from the test subject. You're the one peering out from between the bars, not I.
Quote:As for the recent murders in the DC area, well, until you get out on the streets, or sit down in a room with someone the likes of those two, maybe you should simply hold fire! Looking at things from the safety of your little computer room really does not qualify your to pass judgement.
The old 'walk a mile in my shoes' lament. Isn't it funny that in all these exchanges, you just naturally assumed I have no relationship to law enforcement or the military? Why is that?