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PROAc New User Offline Posts: 22 Joined: Apr 18^th, 2002	Lawyers Jun 7^th, 2002 at 4:31am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Suppose you are on the waiting list for the security review appeal, it is worth to go alone or to have a lawyer? Whom would you recommend: Sheldon Cohen Janine Brookner (ex-CIA who won for sexual harrassment against the CIA) Cacheris (Spelling?) defended Ames, Hanssen, etc BTW, are polygraphers law enforcement officers? They seemed not to know a lot about the laws. Thanks.


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George W. Maschke Global Moderator Offline Make-believe science yields make-believe security. Posts: 6211 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Re: Lawyers Reply #1 - Jun 7^th, 2002 at 11:16am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	It stands to reason that skilled legal counsel can only help. Whether it is worth it or not is a subjective call you'll have to make. What agency is involved? Whether or not you decide to retain a lawyer, you might find Elizabeth L. Newman's book Security Clearance Law and Procedure to be a useful reference. I don't know which lawyers might be best for such matters, but other names that also come to mind include Mark Zaid and Roy Krieger. As for polygraphers being law enforcement officers, some are, some aren't. To the best of my knowledge, all FBI polygraphers are special agents and are thus law enforcement officers with the power to make arrests. It may be the same with the U.S. Secret Service and DEA. But as far as I know, CIA and NSA polygraphers are not law enforcement officers.

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PROAc New User Offline Posts: 22 Joined: Apr 18^th, 2002	Re: Lawyers Reply #2 - Jun 15^th, 2002 at 5:30am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Thanks for the other lawyers name. I guess with the hundreds of revoked security clearances after Ames and Hanssen,they are quite busy. Index to Legal Periodicals listed 117 law review articles on polygraphs. Maybe a good idea to list them all on your website. Might be more at Current Law Index. You can get them from Westlaw or Lexis-Nexis. BTW, what was the first case involving polygraph?


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