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Reply #30 - Aug 21st, 2003 at 4:55pm
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Huxley,
I'm sure Sie will overlook the transgression Smiley
  

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Reply #31 - Sep 4th, 2003 at 8:08am
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What effect would having a high blood pressure of 210/117 have on testing?

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Reply #32 - Sep 4th, 2003 at 3:00pm
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HBP,

The question is not what effect your stated resting blood pressure (210/117) would have on a polygraph exam (likely none), but what effect a polygraph exam would have on your blood pressure and attendant health issues (perhaps considerable).  Although no one should voluntarily be a polygraph examinee, you should absolutely refuse such (if offered) for health reasons.
  
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Reply #33 - Dec 21st, 2003 at 7:37am
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I did not realize this post was so old.  Polyantipass, are you still free?  I certainly hope not.  And George, you stated earlier:  "When Gino Scalabrini and I created AntiPolygraph.org and published The Lie Behind the Lie Detector, we knew full well that some of the information made available here could be helpful to people trying to "beat the system." This was not, however, our motivation for creating this website."  You admit that a few "bad" people will use your advice to beat the system while you slam polygraph, claiming that a few "truthfull" people are devastated by the evil polygraphers.  How is that line of reasoning any different?  I wonder what the success rate of your "machine" is?  And as far as those who would bash NoLieGuy and others who feel that Antipolypass should be in prison:  no one touched on his current subscriptions to porn websites.  He alluded to his subscriptions, not past subscriptions, which tells me he is still doing it.  The fact that he has access to the computer to post here leads me to believe he is still offending.  Well, hell, he openly admits to reoffending.  Problem is, everyone is trying to justify his crime by making light of it by saying he only looked at pictures.  Bullshit, he sought out pictures day and night, looked at them, saved them, and engaged in self pleasure fantasizing about the innocent child over and over and over.  And when that picture no longer got his jollies off, he found others.  And the process perpetuated until he got caught.  And the only way society can protect us from him is to polygraph him routinely to determine if he is reoffending.  Chalk up one more in the "ony 13% reoffend"  Thanks George
 
  
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Reply #34 - Dec 21st, 2003 at 9:14am
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DIorNDI,

You write, among other things:

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And the only way society can protect us from him is to polygraph him routinely to determine if he is reoffending.


Nonsense. Polygraph "testing" is a sham. It can only "determine" if a probationer or parolee is reoffending if that probationer or parolee cares to admit it.
  

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Reply #35 - Dec 21st, 2003 at 10:56pm
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Look who is becoming a believer....not totally I admit...but surely there is a note of acknowledgement in your message that there indeed is a use for that infernal machine that you have denigrated for so long....congratulations George for your moderating view...I am proud of you!
  
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Reply #36 - Dec 23rd, 2003 at 12:19am
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I know you will ask "what is he talking about"....perhaps it is just the way you phased it...but when I read:

It can only "determine" if a probationer or parolee is reoffending if that probationer or parolee cares to admit it. 

I came to the conclusion thatyou were in efffect saying that the polygraph works....albeit not in every situation...but I think your verablized intention is clear....or was this a Freudian slip?

Have a gret holiday George...looking forward to meeting you soon at the Hague!
  
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Reply #37 - Dec 23rd, 2003 at 7:02am
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Torpedo,

The point I was making in my previous post in this message thread is that polygraph "testing" cannot reliably differentiate between truth and deception; polygraph "test" scores cannot "determine" whether a parolee or probationer is re-offending. Polygraphy does, however, have some utility for getting admissions/confessions from those who haven't yet discovered that it's a fraud.

Thank you for your holiday wishes, and I hope the same for you and yours. But I'm a little puzzled by your reference to our meeting soon at The Hague. If you expect to be in town and would like to meet, I would be amenable to that.
  

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