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FormerOfficer Guest	List of Non-Poly LE agencies? Want to start one? May 14^th, 2002 at 12:38am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I can tell you of a few that don't employ Polygraphs. None in the state of OR that I know of Portland PD New Orleans PD (CVSA - a joke) None in MS that I know of got any you know of?(especially the bigger departments) Thanks!


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Fred F. Very Senior User Offline Get Educated.... Knowledge is Power Posts: 225 Joined: Apr 4^th, 2001	Re: List of Non-Poly LE agencies? Want to start o Reply #1 - May 15^th, 2002 at 3:07am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	FormerOfficer, In California, Most of the State agencies with the exception of the CA Dept. of Justice(poly)and the CHP(CVSA) do not poly. This includes the following: CA Dept of Corrections CA Youth Authority State Parole Investigator jobs within State agencies, Alcoholic Beverage Control, Dept. of Insurance, and the Horse Racing Board. Local Agencies LA Airport Police, LA Harbor Police, and Los Angeles Unified School District Police do not poly. LA County Probation Dept. and the District Attorney Investigators also do not get the poly. LA County Coroners Investigators as well. The only local PD that doesn't is Gardena PD (CVSA). Fred F.
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Hate The Process Guest	Re: List of Non-Poly LE agencies? Want to start o Reply #2 - May 16^th, 2002 at 10:23am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Chula Vista PD in San Diego also doesn't use the poly.


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pdity New User Offline Posts: 3 Joined: May 29^th, 2002	Re: List of Non-Poly LE agencies? Want to start o Reply #3 - Jun 1^st, 2002 at 4:36am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	I came from the east coast and most don't poly. NYPD NYSP (state police) NJSP ( state police) and most other local law enforcement They don't have that kind of corruption and abuse scandals like the west coast inner cities and states. Its all about the scandals that make serious headlines and that's when top cops feel poly's the answer to new candidates. start poly'ing everybody then. Top Cop on down, and oh yeah half the force will fail too! I gurantee it.


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G Scalabr Global Moderator Offline Posts: 358 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Re: List of Non-Poly LE agencies? Want to start o Reply #4 - Jun 1^st, 2002 at 6:44am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Quote: Pdity:I came from the east coast and most don't poly. NYPD NYSP (state police) NJSP ( state police) Note that the New York State Police do polygraph applicants. You are correct in stating that NYPD and NJSP do not. In fact, polygraphing police applicants is illegal by statute in New Jersey (and in MA and MN as well). Furthermore, it is simply not a common practice in NY outside of Long Island. A few small departments do force applicants to submit, but this is the exception, not the rule. On the other hand, CT mandates by law that all police applicants be polygraphed.


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jcoates New User Offline Posts: 1 Location: Philadelphia , PA Joined: Dec 25^th, 2001 Gender:	Re: List of Non-Poly LE agencies? Want to start o Reply #5 - Jun 5^th, 2002 at 4:10am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	The Philadelphia Police Department just announced they will no longer be using the polygraph in their hiring process.


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PROAc New User Offline Posts: 22 Joined: Apr 18^th, 2002	Re: List of Non-Poly LE agencies? Want to start o Reply #6 - Jul 1^st, 2002 at 5:09am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	the professional staff members of the House and Senate Intelligence Select Committee. not sure about the DSS (Defense Security Service). They flipped-flopped on training and re-training and such and so.


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jet-journalist User Offline Posts: 26 Joined: Aug 1^st, 2002	Re: List of Non-Poly LE agencies? Want to start o Reply #7 - Aug 12^th, 2002 at 6:47pm	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Hate the Process, i was just on Chula Vistas web site and it states that you must pass a poly!


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Mr. G New User Offline Posts: 3 Location: Los Angeles, CA Joined: Aug 16^th, 2002 Gender:	Re: List of Non-Poly LE agencies? Want to start o Reply #9 - Aug 16^th, 2002 at 9:06am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	Checked out Gardena; I recall seeing somewhere that they do poly. Any add'l info?


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George W. Maschke Global Moderator Offline Make-believe science yields make-believe security. Posts: 6211 Joined: Sep 29^th, 2000	Re: List of Non-Poly LE agencies? Want to start o Reply #13 - Aug 17^th, 2002 at 12:08am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	jet-journalist, For the record, and to the best of my knowledge, LAPD, LASO, and the Riverside Co. Sheriff's Office all require a pre-employment polygraph, while the California Highway Patrol requires the even more asinine CVSA "test."

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jet-journalist User Offline Posts: 26 Joined: Aug 1^st, 2002	Re: List of Non-Poly LE agencies? Want to start o Reply #14 - Aug 17^th, 2002 at 1:13am	Mark & Quote Quote Print Post
	yes, i was refering to just large departments in general. Sorry did not specify that. As a matter of a fact, correct me if i am wrong i think theres only about 3 PD's that dont poly, but i have heard that two of them use the CSVA. But you can Download free CSVA software from a website, i have to call my buddy who has the web address and i will post it soon. Sorry George, my bad. Well i hope everyone has a great weekend and stays safe, i know i plan on having a great weekend. George, BEECH, and drew all have a GREAT day.


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