Batman wrote on May 31
st, 2002 at 5:27pm:
do you think he means he was telling the truth and he passed, or do you think he means what he wrote, that he "beat" the polygraph?
Although your questions were not directed towards me, I'll horn in and say I think it means he was honest on all his application forms, he was found to be a worthy law enforcement officer candidate by his background investigators, he was found to be medically and psychologically fit by professionals in those respected fields of medicine, and thus he served well as a police officer for those two departments-- as an added bonus he knew
The Lie Behind The Lie Detector and simply beat you at your own game in order to secure the career of his choice. I can understand your bitterness, however, as it now seems only one party, the bureaucracy of the police department, believes your lies-- and even they are beginning to see the truth. How frustrating it must be for you to see your livelihood, and the pleasure you receive from disqualifying good, honest, hard-working men & women from jobs in law enforcement, slowly dwindle as your bleatings
become ever-increasingly irrelevant.
Quote:Third, I ask again, if one knows a requirement for a job or career is something they do not care to fulfill, then why not pick a different career path?
I'd wager that most men and women who desire a career in law enforcement care to fulfill the requirement of passing the polygraph if the department they want to work for is under the mistaken assumption that polygraphs can detect lies. I can't speak for George and Gino but I think that's at least partially why this website exists-- to help honest people understand how to surmount this ridiculous obstacle to getting what they want out of their lives.
Quote:You know, if being a professional basketball player requires that I be able to dunk the ball but I can't then maybe I should look at being a professional hockey player, or baseball player, or a greeter at Wal-mart.
You still don't get it. We're on to you, polygrapher. This has NOTHING to do with a candidate's ability to perform his or her job. This has EVERYTHING to do with taking control of the application process and ensuring that the coin-toss lands on heads every time.
Quote:It sure beats being a professional cry baby, or a professional complainer about the "system" and how it is so unfair to me because I can't tell the truth about my past, who I was, who I am, or take responsibility for my actions, past, present, and future. If you made a "mistake" (nice way of saying breaking the law) in the past, own up to it man. If it means you can't get a particular job, so be it, just stop crying about how unfair the system is. If you want to change the system, then get polygraph outlawed, but until then wipe the tears and get on with life.
Thanks to hard work and a majority of votes in Congress and the Senate, your profession is
already outlawed to a great extent. The Philly Hotbox is closed for business. Which department is next? Hopefully yours.
No one is crying, except you. This website is filled with positive, proactive information. Certainly, there are sections documenting the travesties and ruination your brethren have heaped upon many people, and indeed many of the initial posts here are from people wrongly accused of deception, drug use, criminal activity, etc. Characterizing these good people as 'professional cry-babies' is so patronizing, so arrogant, so amazingly illustrative of your profession's hubris that I will refrain from further comment.
"I think that there are a lot of applicants who we've lost who would have made outstanding police officers that, because they couldn't pass the polygraph, were rejected," the commissioner said. Is Police Commissioner Johnson a crybaby?