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Re: Help me take a stand
Reply #15 - Jan 10th, 2004 at 4:19pm
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When are you going to advertise your countermeasures to the urinalysis test. Oh thats right, if I do drugs and I'm wrong I will need them. I guess you will want to damage private property and ask people to write this on bathroom walls. I understand making a buck, but your ethics leave something to be desired.

If you're referring to The Lie Behind the Lie Detector, it should be noted that 1) no one has asked anyone to vandalize property in the spreading of information about the polygraph and 2) the book is free; there is no "making a buck" involved.  Do these facts address your concerns about ethics?

If not, we could point out that 1) unlike urinalysis, the polygraph is not grounded in scientific evidence and solid theory backing its efficacy (in fact, quite the opposite is true), 2) if urinalysis produced a false positive, one would have the chance and the means to demonstrate this fact, and 3) information on "beating" a urinalysis test is already out there, and the methods and ways to counter the countermeasures are well-known.

In contrast, polygraphers appear to have no known way to counter countermeasures with any certainty of success, beyond bluff, based as the test is on a foundation of sand.  Were this the case with urinalysis, it would be worthwhile to point out that that test could easily, undetectably and unstoppably be fooled and it were therefore unwise to depend upon it.

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