George,

I'm probably mistaken, but I thought there was a Federal  statute that prohibited charges greater than $50.00 for FOIA requests..... regardless, it would appear the CIA is trying to extort you.

Thanks to all who have contacted me thus far (27 Apr.) regarding sharing the costs of this FOIA request. Here are our collective commitments to covering potential search fees that the CIA may charge:

1 x up to $20
3 x up to $50
1 x up to $100
1 x up to $300

If any others would also be willing to help share the burden, please let me know. What I suggest we do is to distribute any charges amongst ourselves as equitably as possible without any person exceeding his/her commitment.

I'll be sending a reply to Ms. Dyer in the coming week asking her to proceed with these two FOIA requests.

Put me down for $50.00 George.

Broken heart
Are you suggesting that George and Gino are reading post as they are posted or that they are censored somehow? Does anyone have the time to sit by the computer and read every post? Every time I have posted the post goes directly to the forum. Furthermore, if you would take the time to read the post in this forum you can see many post that they would not agree with but they still appear. Maybe you should actually check the email address you entered before making such comments. Your fear of our knowledge is showing.

BrokenHearted,

George is correct in saying that your character faults are not caused by him banning/blocking your messages.  First, this would not be the fault message received if he where blocking/banning your messages.  Second, George and I have debated over vast issues and not once has my original information been altered, deleted, or changed for any reason other then to correct invalid/incompatible code problems.

It is hard to prove or disprove how many 'spies' have been 'caught' by the polygraph.  Polygraph is rarely referred to in-depth in the minuscule amount of publicized espionage cases, for obvious national security reasons.

Today (6 May) I faxed a letter to the CIA FOIA office agreeing to pay fees of up to $150 per request and requesting information on how to contact the person who handles appeals of fee determinations, as I'll be appealing Ms. Dyer's decision not to waive fees with regard to these requests.

Here is a summary and an update. As long-time readers will recall, on 12 March 2002 AntiPolygraph.org filed two Freedom of Information Act requests with the Central Intelligence Agency for:

1) "any report(s) on the history of the CIA polygraph division, including, but not limited to, any written by former CIA polygrapher John F. Sullivan"

2) "documentation of any standardized briefing provided to CIA employees or applicants prior to their taking polygraph examinations, whether on paper, videotape, or any other media."

These requests are avaiable here, respectively:

http://antipolygraph.org/foia/foia-008.shtml

http://antipolygraph.org/foia/foia-009.shtml

The CIA conisdered these requests jointly, assigning them reference number F-2002-00237, and initially demanded a commitment to pay search fees estimated at $300 before it would process these request:

http://antipolygraph.org/foia/foia-008-1.shtml

However, upon appeal, the Agency yielded and waived search fees:

http://antipolygraph.org/foia/foia-008-2.shtml

Finally, on 2 October 2003, the CIA reported that it had found no records responsive to AntiPolygraph.org's request with respect to a history of the CIA polygraph division. Regarding our request for documentation of any standardized pre-polygraph briefings, the CIA reported that "we located material which we have determined is properly classified and must be denied in its entirety on the basis of FOIA exemptions (b)(1) and (b)(3)":

http://antipolygraph.org/foia/foia-008-3.shtml

The CIA invites me to appeal this denial, asking that I explain the basis for any appeal. However, the CIA egregiously failed to comply with the FOIA requirement that in denying a request, an estimate of the amount of matter withheld be provided. See 5 U.S.C. 552 (a)(6)(f). Without some reasonable description of the withheld information, it will be difficult to adequately explain the basis for any appeal.

I will  be contacting the CIA FOIA office to request a description of the withheld material before filing any appeal. If anyone has any suggestions on appealing this decision, I would be grateful. One point that comes to mind is that since the CIA's pre-polygraph briefing is presented to applicants who presumably have no security clearance, the argument that briefing materials are properly classified in their entirety and cannot be released fails the "giggle test."