Netnin,
     You really need help.

While it is AntiPolygraph.org's policy to not to censor posts to this message board, the need has arisen to set the record straight.

In a message to this thread dated 28 February 2002 at 15:02 hrs and last modified at 2203 hrs, registered user Netnin posted what purports to be the text of a private message dated 28 February 2002 at 13:52:32 from registered user Duc748.

Because of the derogatory nature of Netnin's claim, and the unprecedented controversy that has ensued, we have taken the unprecedented step of referring to the website's access log file to verify the truth of the matter, which is that no private message was posted to the message board at 13:52:32 hours on 28 February 2002, or within the ten minutes before and after.

Netnin, to send a profane private message and then falsely deny it reflects poorly on one's judgment and credibility, but to fabricate defamatory words and falsely attribute them to others is downright slanderous. Such behavior is unwelcome here. Please cease and desist.

I would like to take this opportunity to apologize to Duc, and to all those who I have misled.  I am simply a sicko who thrives in the light of controversy.  

Upon recognition of Duc748's strong character,  competitive nature,  and strong will,  I found him to be an easy target for a posted verbal war...something I tend to get off on. 

But let us not forget Duc's first post that started this chain--a cocky post that expressed the power-trip he is experiencing now that he is in with the Feds.  Hell...the guy came in here shooting his mouth off like a cannon in the 100-years war.

And please...I ask that no one take the time to prove or disprove whether or not cannons were used during the 100-years war...it was a lousy attempt at a joke.  (By the way...how long did the 100-year war last?)

But,  as I said,  the Duc has strong character and a strong will.  He took criticism well,  and took part in extensive dialogue to help further understand the fraud behind the polygraph.  (Though I find that he still seems to fall into the "institutionalized thinking" catagory,  as Taz had suggested.)  

I must say though,  I did a pretty good job of deceiving people.  My ability to falsify a private message with great precision,  create a nearly full-proof defense for every mistake I made (note:  the mistake I made by not looking at the time of the posts),  and dramatically turn the tables on Duc shows that I have a truly MAD mind.  

The fact that the administrators had to clarify the situation by checking the post log is proof enough of my effective ability to create and modify lies into solid defenses.  

I bid peace to all,  and to all a good morning,  noon,  and night!

Netninio the Sickio

(Ahhh...the beauty of the anonymity of the internet!)

Eyes Wide Open...

Trust me...he is exactly what the Feds are looking for.

Totally loyal to authority,  accepting their words as a devout Christian might accept the word of God.

I'm not going to suggest that something will go wrong,  but could you imagine if Duc's polygraph results show deception some day down the road...even though he knew that he told the truth?

I could just see him now...after years of total loyalty and dedication,  he would run up to his boss and say,  "But you guys aren't going to believe those results are you?  You've watched me grow into a dedicated, loyal,  and professional agent.  Surely you will give me another chance to prove my innocence....to show something went wrong during the test...?"

And then the dark cold reality will set in....

His boss's look that always was so accepting and warm and kind will turn to a cold and unaccepting stare...a stare like he has been betrayed.   

Years of creating a life solely dedicated and based around 
a career in the FBI right 

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...All because of a machine thought up by the creator of a comic strip.  Humorous?  I think not.

Duc748,

You wrote:

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Agreed. But federal polygraphers will falsely claim to subjects that it's, say, 98% accurate.

Duc748,

You're wrong, as you predicted you might be. A person might show a physiological response to a question for any number of reasons, none of which necessarily have anything to do with deception, such as embarrassment, anger, and importantly, fear of the consequences of not being believed. As David Lykken has explained, any physiological response that you might show when telling a lie, you might exhibit another time, when you are telling the truth.

The FBI Oath:

I, [insert name here], do solemnly swear to support, uphold and defend the Constitution of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic, to obey the lawful orders and directives of those appointed before and above me, and that I enter into this office without any mental reservation whatsoever, so help me GOD.