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Feb 25th, 2002 at 3:41am
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Some simple questions:

Say I test at a local PD, and get disqualified from their testing process because of a failed polygraph.

Now say I am testing at another agency and taking another polygraph but at a different location/different polygraphing place.

When they ask whether or not I have taken a polygraph before, and I say no, is there any chance/any place that police agencies can go to check the polygraph results of people (a place that collectively gathers polygraph results for all who take polygraphs)?

As far as I understand it, only the agency that tests you and the PD you are testing for have your poly records, and so the only way the new PD you are testing for can get your records/know you have other records is if you tell them you took one for another department (assuming the polygraph for the new PD is at another poly agency).
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Reply #1 - Feb 25th, 2002 at 10:36pm
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I have applied to 3 different PD's on the Personal History Statement they ask you what other agnecies you have applied with.  On an initial background check, they check with the Civil Service Agnecy. They provide them with the names of all the deprtments you have ever taken a Civil Service Test For.  Further, the new agancy will also contact the other PD's and ask them why you were disqualified. 
In my case an officer accidently handed me my file to hold on to while he made some copies.  I took a quick glimpse and noticed notes from the old department I had applied with.  They stated that I was a poly reject.  They also had witten all the scenarios they had run by me while going through the oral interview board.

To answer your question they find out about other departments you have applied to through the Civil Service Commission.

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Reply #2 - Feb 26th, 2002 at 8:23am
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Taz....

Thanks for your input,  but I don't think the information you have provided me with is correct.

The Civil Service Commission is a commission that is formulated for each city/community. They are responsible for
the hiring, firing, and disciplining of civil service employees
for THEIR particular city.

They do not collect lists of all tests taken in all places by all people.  

Moreover,  the reason the officer had information from other departments about you is because you MUST have told them, in your application, about your other testing experiences.

Please let me know where you got your information, and explain further if you insist that you are correct.

Where did you get the information you provided me with in your response?  

I don't mean to be rude, or blunt, but it seems like you have been misled.  

I truly believe that the police department relies on the candidate to tell them where they have tested in the past, as well as the outcomes of those testing experiences.  

It is the Civil Service Commission that looks at the results of the background investigators reports to see who they want to hire.

Why would they have a list of all the exams you have taken at other places?  The are just a board of members who choose who they want to hire as cops.

If you are aware of any other agencies that compile the results for all the tests taken by all the people who want to be cops, please let me know.  The Civil Service Commission Definitely does not do such a thing.

  
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Reply #3 - Feb 26th, 2002 at 10:00pm
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Netnin,

It seems I may have been misled as to what exactly the Civil Service Commission does.  The reason I reached this conclusion is that when asked in the History Statement if I had ever applied for other departments, I only wrote down one other place.  When I glimpsed at my folder they had contacted the one place I had mentioned and they had also written down the name of of a third PD that I had applied with (I did not provide this information to them).  
The only thing I had done with this third department was take their civil service test.  I had later withdrawn my applicaton because I did not want to get burned as a reject by two departments.  If they did not get this information from the Civil Service, then there surely must be a place where it is collected. Another option is that they may have contacted departments in the area ( But that's like shooting a bullet into the open and not having a target).

Also, While I was waiting for my turn to take a physical at the current department. I overheard a phone conversation between a personnel officer and someone who had called in (Probably a background investigator).  The personnel officer told the person on the other line to hold a minute and he walked over to a file cabinet, pulled a file and then gave the person on other line infomation about an applicant.  He told him how many times the applicant had admited to using marijuana and last date used, other information regarding the applicant, and finally the reason why the applicant had been DQ.

This of course is only one humble man's opinion....

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