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Polygraphers should respond by private message on this board if you don't feel comfortable inquiring on the public thread. Go for the gold. I would like to lose the $5,000 but this is a time limited offer. 

I am astonished at the lack of interest by polygraphers in earning $5,000! Of course to WIN the $5,000 the ability to detect Countermeasures has to actually be demonstrated. Perhaps that is a bit harder than I anticipated.
 
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While polygraphers maintain CM's are easily and nearly always detected, I am becoming increasingly convinced detecting CM's is not easy. It should be obvious that the best way for polygraphers to deal with CM's is to demonstrate they are detectable. Demonstrating this, with protection against technique disclosure, should be attractive. Especially with a $5,000 reward.

So far the lack of interest in winning the $5,000 suggests polygraphers, assertions to the contrary, have little confidence in winning Richardson's Challenge.
   
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This is a new response to an old posting you made on the antipolygraph message board (your message shoud be shown above, if I did this quote-paste thing right):

I'm a typical person, which is what you say polys are for, not the PhDs who can deface them, right?

No; poly don't work well, or there would not be such protest.   


I want you to hear my story; which I wouldn't bother telling you if it weren't true... 

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I initiated a poly to disprove an accusation a young woman made to my wife about a sexual act I allegelly conducted w/her.  I felt my only way to disprove it was to take a poly.

Confident, I contacted an attorney, and he set me up with one of the two BEST (i.e., highest credibility) poly examiners in the area.  I paid TOP dollar, because I didn't want any dispute as to the legitimacy of my results.  I paid $500 to the attorney and $600 to the examiner (I had been out of work for 6 mons by this time, and couldn't afford it, but what's money when it comes to the integrity of your name, right?).

I took the test and it showed 'deception' on the issue.  The poly operator (who had been a really nice guy until the pt when the results came back), got in my face and pointed his finger and said very forcefully, "You lied! Admit it! You touched that young woman didn't you?!".  I was floored.  I DID NOT TOUCH HER; I HAD TOLD THE TRUTH.   

I went home and told my wife I failed the poly.  She believes the girl and her accusations, and the poly... it has changed our marriage.

I can only hope that when my children grow older, I will be a credible enough figure in their lives that they believe me, though my wife doesn't.

Let me ask you this, since you're such a believer... do you think so many people would be involved w/the antipolygraph website if they didn't feel the injustice of polys??? Do you think they're ALL lyers w/nothing better to do???

False poly results can chng your life; don't you think that if polys can make such an impact on your life, they should be right... ALWAYS??? If you don't think they should always be right, are you acceptable to changing someone's life for the worse, as long as you get paid to do it???

Not a profession I could stomach.

Polys... don't do them if you're innocent. 

Three years and still no takers!

Friday, 28 January 2005 marked the 3-year anniversary of Dr. Richardson's standing polygraph countermeasure challenge, and still not a single polygraph operator has mustered the courage to accept it.

Sluggo wrote on Jun 25^th, 2004 at 11:32pm:


Well, actually, is there ANY profession that is always right?  Doctors make mistakes.  Does that mean they should quit healing the sick because they don't have a perfect healing record?  Lawyers make mistakes--sometimes they successfully prosecute the innocent or unknowingly (yeah, I know, with defense attorneys it's less likely) help the guilty go free.  Should we can the legal system?  Cops make mistakes--they accidentally hurt someone or make a poor decision once in awhile.  Should we stop having them patrol our streets?  All--and I mean ALL parents make mistakes.  That's the most important job of all, don't you agree?  Should we sterilize everyone and stop making babies?

From everything I've read and heard, the polygraph machine is the best thing we have for finding out the truth at a much better-than-chance rate.  If it works the majority of the time, and the polygraphers are trained with a strictly certified training program and then policed with inspections and quality control checks, isn't it preferable to use it than to throw away the best tool available?

I know, you could come back and say, "Well, if it hurts one innocent person it's not worth catching most of the bad apples."  But with all the corruption problems we already have in law enforcement, I'd rather that a few "innocent" job-seekers be turned down based on a polygraph rather than that a whole lot more bad apples become cops.

Oh, and one more thing: A few more people on this forum need to play devil's advocate--it makes the forum better and stimulates both sides of the equation rather than simply having a bunch of disgruntled polygraph failures bitching and moaning to each other.

anythingformoney wrote on Feb 9^th, 2005 at 9:17pm:


That same argument can be used to refute the various "studies" that "prove" the polygraph's supposed validity.

Yes, Jeffery, you are right.  That's why I told Gino that throwing out references to studies would make us look like two people arguing over the meaning of an obscure Biblical passage.  However, I've read much of the literature cited on this website, and none of it can be supported as well as what I have cited myself.  Do my cited studies prove the polygraph to be 100% accurate?  Of course not.  But they are good evidence that it is a tool worth keeping, and that it's the best tool we have.  It does what it is supposed to do.

I have nothing against SOME of the arguments George and Company make; however, so much of what they say can't be backed up, AND they don't have any real-world experience to corroborate so many of their foolish claims.