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Sep 25th, 2001 at 12:13am
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???  Do individual states maintain registries of licensed polygraphers and complaint histories?  Any information on this?

  
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Reply #1 - Sep 26th, 2001 at 3:24am
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Dbird wrote on Sep 25th, 2001 at 12:13am:

???  Do individual states maintain registries of licensed polygraphers and complaint histories?  Any information on this?


I'm not certain about how each state regulates polygraph examiners. Your examiner should belong to one or more polygraph associations (indeed, they seem to thrive on being members of as many polygraph associations and organizations as they can afford to join, thus allowing them further bloviating and crowding of their office walls with more useless parchment.)

If you tell us which state you're interested in, I'm sure someone can research it for you. Feel free to send me a private message if you don't want the state publicly known.

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Reply #2 - Sep 26th, 2001 at 3:53am
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Thanks.  The state is Washington.  Mr. Carter seems like a nice guy.  Says he has done this since 1968.  Other names I have been given include Bud Killean and Terry Hall.

  
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Reply #3 - Sep 26th, 2001 at 3:47pm
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Dbird wrote on Sep 26th, 2001 at 3:53am:

Thanks.  The state is Washington.  Mr. Carter seems like a nice guy.  Says he has done this since 1968.  Other names I have been given include Bud Killean and Terry Hall.


A brief perusal of the Revised Code of Washington 

http://www.leg.wa.gov/wsladm/rcw.cfm

elicits a few 'hits' on the word polygraph, but there doesn't seem to be anything concerning a controlling state government body nor ethics and standards of practice. It would appear that your state is one that heartily embraces the use of the polygraph both in criminal investigations and in parole/probation.

Also please take a look everyone at 

http://www.apa.org/releases/liedetector.html

Who is Mr. Carter?
  

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Reply #4 - Sep 27th, 2001 at 5:05am
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Thank you.  Mr. Carter is the polygrapher who administered the exam I took here in Washington state.  I am going to email Dr. W.G. Iacono listed at that APA article to see if he has more articles to cite.

Your link is very helpful.
  
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Reply #5 - Sep 27th, 2001 at 7:10am
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Dbird,

The following is an abstract of a very recent article by Professor Iacono, taken from the NCJRS Abstracts Database:

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Title:  Forensic "Lie Detection": Procedures Without Scientific Basis 

Journal:  Journal of Forensic Psychology Practice  Volume:1  

Issue:1  Dated:2001  Pages:75 to 86 

Author:  William G. Iacono Ph.D. 

Format:  article 

Publication Date:  2001 

Pages:  12 

Type:  Studies/research reports 

Origin:  United States 

Language:  English 

Note:  For an opposing argument, see NCJ-186442. 

Annotation:  This paper provides a critical overview of the scientific status of the control question test (CQT), the type of polygraph test most likely to be used in forensic settings.  
Abstract:  Because there is no characteristic physiological response necessarily linked with lying, it is not possible to ask a person to answer a relevant question about an alleged misdeed, record nervous-system reactions, and make a determination of truthfulness. Polygraphy has attempted to circumvent this problem by including, in addition to a relevant question, a comparison question that is also used to elicit physiological reactions. If a suspect responds more strongly to the relevant question, guilt is indicated, while similar sized responses to both types of questions signify innocence. This relevant/irrelevant test (RIT) format has been found wanting even by proponents of polygraphy, because the irrelevant items do not provide an adequate control for the emotional impact of simply being presented with the accusatory relevant question. The CQT is an effort to circumvent the problems inherent in the RIT by introducing a so-called "control" question, the response to which is compared to the relevant question. Control questions are intended to elicit a lie or at least concern by posing a vague question that covers possible minor misdeeds from a person's past. The theory of the CQT assumes that it is highly likely that every person has hurt someone or lied to an authority figure, so these questions will provide an example of a subject's physiological reactions when lying. For the CQT to be valid, two assumptions must hold. The first requires innocent individuals to be more responsive to control than relevant questions. The second requires guilty persons to respond more intensely to relevant than control questions. These assumptions can be easily challenged, making CQT biased against innocent individuals and vulnerable to defeat by artificially augmenting responses to control questions. These conclusions are supported by published research findings in the best social science journals....

  

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Reply #6 - Sep 7th, 2002 at 3:35am
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Please Help Me!
I'd first like to address my thanks to all of you that make this sight possible and to your willingness to help those who are afflicted by the polygraph "tests".
I need help finding polygrapher procedure laws for criminals in Colorado. My fiance has been subject to numerous polygraphs in the past 6 years as a part of his rehabilitation. The program that he has been a part of requires 2 passed poly's in order to be released from the program after he has completed other requirements. When the time came for these 2 poly's they informed him that his "inconclusive" pass would not be accepted because of law changes that took place after his admition in the program. I have recieved some info by means of hear-say that the way that the tests are conducted do not follow the procedures as the law states. I am having a very hard time getting info on these laws. We can not afford the advice of legal professionals, so any help that you can provide me will be greatly appreciated and benificial to our goals. Thank you so much...Lizzy 217
  
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Reply #7 - Sep 7th, 2002 at 4:49am
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Lizzy_217 wrote on Sep 7th, 2002 at 3:35am:

Please Help Me!
I'd first like to address my thanks to all of you that make this sight possible and to your willingness to help those who are afflicted by the polygraph "tests".
I need help finding polygrapher procedure laws for criminals in Colorado. My fiance has been subject to numerous polygraphs in the past 6 years as a part of his rehabilitation. The program that he has been a part of requires 2 passed poly's in order to be released from the program after he has completed other requirements. When the time came for these 2 poly's they informed him that his "inconclusive" pass would not be accepted because of law changes that took place after his admition in the program. I have recieved some info by means of hear-say that the way that the tests are conducted do not follow the procedures as the law states. I am having a very hard time getting info on these laws. We can not afford the advice of legal professionals, so any help that you can provide me will be greatly appreciated and benificial to our goals. Thank you so much...Lizzy 217


Where post-conviction tests are concerned, unfortunately your fiance's probation officer has almost limitless power to dictate the rules. I'm presuming your fiance was convicted of a sex offense, and these polygraphs are part and parcel with his state mandated rehabilitation and the special conditions of his probation. Much depends upon the specific crime and course of treatment, it would appear. Please do NOT post his specifics as it might prejudice his probation officer or polygraph interrogator should they peruse these boards.

You might try carefully reading

http://dcj.state.co.us/odvsom/sodoc.htm and also

The Colorado Statutes which is a searchable database of all Colorado statutes. Searching for 'polygraph' elicited eight hits, none of which were very helpful.

The good thing is, 'inconclusive' is NOT 'deception indicated'.

It goes without saying, you need a lawyer.
  

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