George,

  Just heard, from an SSO, that NSA is cracking down on
people doing research on polygraphy on the Internet 
(nothing new).   Sounds like they are pretty upset
about it.  In the past, we were always told not to
discuss the polygraph questions, with other 
employees/candidates - what dumbasses we all were
to be mystified by this fantasy.  Now, candidates are
being told not to do research on the Internet.  What
are they, a bunch of zombies ?  Maybe, they will have
to give up looking at Internet porn, too.  Just goes to
show, that keeping people ignorant of the polygraph,
is what they depend on - blind-siding people.  

So, companies are telling me, that I should risk my
current clearances, and take a CCA (conditional on
successful  NSA processing) offer of employment.
We just had someone lose his TS/SCI, after failing the
life-style poly. Anyway, it looks like this site is becoming
NSA's  pain-in-the-ass.  

Funny stuff !

I wonder how long it will be until we see "Have you ever researched the polygraph?" as a control question.

I hope these people realize that antipolygraph.org is the very first response that google provides when you search "polygraph".

NoNombre,

I am in awe of your enlightened opinion. You have my respect on an honest opinion, we may disagree on the polygraph, but I think your post is highly worthy of praise.

Regards !!

  Also, it goes to show how the polygraph is used, as
an intimidation device.  As Russ Tice found out, 
psychological exams, by their psychologists, are also
used to yank clearances, and reassign employees to
the motor pool, until they quit...

EosJupiter,

   Well, the SSO said, that if he/she gave advice on how
to beat the polygraph, that he/she could lose his/her
clearance, also.  I am just repeating what I heard,
and I have heard it over and over again from SSOs.
I wonder, if they really believe this lie, or, if they are
running as scared, as the rest of us ?  The whole deal
is one big lie.  Having the polygraph definately helps
with job security, but at what personal expense.  One
has to make a decision, whether it is worth being
consumed, by such a dysfunctional environment...

EosJupitor

Your quote "All that taxpayer money waisted and idle" is right on.

If the ripoff of us taxpayers by defense contractors and polititions in D. C. could be STOPPED, our national debt could be paid off in a couple of years. Look at the contract to Whackenbut's, wichentut's, wackenhut's, whatever, who puts unqualified people in charge of securing or national security's buildings. Did those people beat the poly? If these government entities can't secure their own grounds, how in the hell can they secure our grounds?

Other decisions, that are made in D. C., scares me to death. Like putting the operations of our ports in the hands of foreign countries. Even England shouldn't have gotten the contract much less an Arab country. 

Another is the Federal Reserve Bank, which is privately owned (by entities known only to few) telling us how much interest we have to pay for loans.

Others are outsorcing and illegals which is sending U. S. dollars overseas to be devalued. 20 billion annually to Mexico. It's bad when one can't understand a service rep, without sufficient knowledge, who is charged with helping you solve your problems.

Anyone see the correlation here to the goals of the Trilatteral Committee?

Side note. In the near future, watch Iran start selling their oil for Euro instead of the standard U.S. dollar.

Try writing to the politicians about curtailing the government dependency on the polygraph (or any of the above) and see if you get an answer. I haven't yet.

I'm so hot my stump is burning. Gotta stop.

NSAreject wrote on Mar 8^th, 2006 at 6:11pm:


NSAReject,

I know for a fact that quite a few of the military folks at NSA know about this webSite and have used it on numerous occasions. Much to the shagrin of the vaunted NSA polygraph unit. I think that the SSO is basically a lame duck in this, as your not going to gut your personnel because of research. They can threaten all they want. but try telling the enlisted folks not to do something. Thats like opening the door and say come on in. I do believe the threats to be hollow at best. Not much he can do to control internet access off of Ft. Meade anyways. Just like in high school with class ditch day, everyone knew that you could get suspended, but no one did, because you can't expel a whole class. It should be interesting to watch this play out. Thanks for the update.

UCMJ Analysis:

First an article 32 investigation, highly doubt it would go beyond this. As nothing about researching polygraphy or forming an opinion is illegal. But if it did then they could try and prosecute under 2 possible articles in my analysis, there could be a couple of other ones, but these two seem the most likely candidates:

Article 107, UCMJ 
FALSE STATEMENTS 
Any person subject to this chapter who, with intent to deceive, signs any false record, return, regulation, order, or other official document, knowing it to be false, or makes any other false official statement knowing it to be false, shall be punished as a court-martial may direct. 

If the individual is honest and states he researched polygraphy that will nullify this one. 

Then there is the catch all:

Article 134, UCMJ
GENERAL ARTICLE 
Though not specifically mentioned in this chapter, all disorders and neglects to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces, all conduct of a nature to bring discredit upon the armed forces, and crimes and offenses not capital, of which persons subject to this chapter may be guilty, shall be taken cognizance of by a general, special or summary court-martial, according to the nature and degree of the offense, and shall be punished at the discretion of that court. 

This one would not be as hard to try and use it against a small number of folks. But experience tells me that trying to link this article to research of polygraphy on the internet would be quite a stretch. As long as the person is not trying to subvert the polygraph exam process. Its not against the law to research polygraphy, and its not against the law to not believe in the polygraph. Curiosity is not punishable, as long as its done without intent to circumvent the existing processes. Which boils down to them proving intent to do just this. Very hard case to prove. And this would definately make news media if its a large enough number of folks. And if I was going to defend on this one, I would use the media and definately let this one out to the public view. In the middle of a conflict its very bad form to try and do in your folks in uniform.  They might try article 15's too, but if the person is smart they will not sign it and take it to a Court Marshall. But this is just my analysis and opinion, of course.

Regards !!