You would know if your BI started because your credit would get pulled and your references would notify you that have been contacted.  If you were found unsuitable after only the poly, then it has to have been something you said during the poly.  That's the only way.  Sorry man.  I still have my fingers cross.  They agency actually completed my BI.


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I find it hard to believe that you applied in January and had a poly only a month later.  This is an impossible timeline in the IC.  When you apply, it takes several months before you are contacted back.  You have to go through preliminary online testing, standard interviews, and even a pre-security interview all before the poly, which can take several months to a year before you even get to the poly!  Unless you are transitioning directly from another agency or something and already had a TS/SCI clearance.

Only one poly given.
No admissions made.  No harsh interrogation.
Don't know if background investigation was started or completed.
Rejection letter only said found unsuitable for employment.

Was not Covid, as NSA was hiring and the waiting room was full of applicants.

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Maybe Covid had something to do with your rejection, such as the NSA not hiring during the pandemic.   

- Did they call you in for a second or third poly?
- What there something you admitted to or were harshly interrogated on that may be the reason for denial?
- Did your background investigation start and/or conclude?
- Did they tell you why you were rejected or was it a vague suitability denial?

Sorry for all the questions, I'm just trying to gauge my process.  Several of us on Reddit and in the clearancejobs discussion board are in limbo trying to figure out what is going on.

Applied January 2021, poly February 2021, rejection letter December 2021;  was a direct hire process.

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Yikes. Sorry to hear and I guess it sucks for me. On other forums like reddit people have been cleared after a year or more. Those who are rejected jsually find out quickly, like within a couple of months after a poly.

When did you go through the process? Your job was a direct hire fed job with NSA? Can you post your timeline?

you very likely were disqualified.  Ten months after my NSA poly I received a one-page rejection letter from NSA.

As of today, still no updates.   It has been about 9 months since my poly, and 8 months in adjudication.  The security folks at the IC contractor job told me I went into adjudication about a month after the poly.  I wonder if the poly accusations were part of some criminal investigation they are doing on me?  I have been a naughty boy, but I leave no traces and I didn't confess to anything . . .

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For me I did not have a clearance at the time I took that all-day CI polygraph.  I previously had a clearance and a poly many many years ago but I left that job because it strained my marriage (I know my username means "hooker" but I'm not one, I just chose this name from a tv show I like).

This recent poly was almost a year ago and I've been told my background check finished and I've been in adjudication ever since.  Silence.  No updates.  Just waiting, and waiting, and waiting.  It seems like since Trump took office these clearances are taking much longer.

@ harlot

Harlot was that your very first time or did you already posses a clearance? 

Thanks George. I just needed reassurance. lol.  With a few red flags in my "friend's" file, one would hope that if the agency still goes through with security processing after honest answers in the pre-screening questions, an overly honest SF86, everything reconfirmed during the BI and poly, and no extra admissions, that all is good.  Though you never know with these 3-letter agencies . . .

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Overall, I think this augurs well.

Hey George.  For someone who goes through this experience, but doesn't make any confessions, and has their entire background check completed with references contacted and police and credit records pulled, what are the chances of that person being granted a clearance?

Like the whole TS/SCI+poly background check is done, all red flags being reconfirmed by references and records, no additional poly admissions, but now the person's file sits in adjudication.  Is this a good sign?  Asking for a friend . . .

This happened to me.  The CI poly questions were actually all CI.  They asked questions like:

"Have you ever leaked classified info to someone who is not authorized?"
"Have you ever engaged in espionage?"
"Have you ever worked for a foreign government?"
"Have you ever tried to access an IT system to which you were unauthorized?"

Before this, they go over your entire SF86, which includes the personal lifestyle stuff like drug use, crime, mental health, and even sex, drugs, and rock-n-roll.  The way they get applicants is that one an applicant opens a door to a topic, then the polygrapher can ask more questions about it.  The polygrapher leads you into talking about your personal and sex life for this reason, and then will interrogate you on it, even though these questions are not asked during the actual polygraph test.  This way, since the applicant "opened the door," the polygrapher is still following standard authorized procedure.

To address your specific questions, no, it is not typical for a polygraph examination to run all day. Nor is it normal for questions about one's personal and social life to be asked during a CI polygraph (though it is not unprecedented).

A while back I took a CI poly that lasted 9 hours, minus a one hour lunch break, for a net of 8 hours.  Now I wasn't strapped up to the poly machine the whole time.  In fact, the actually polygraph was probably only attached to me for a total of one hour at the most.  The remainder of the time included going over my background and various interrogations and accusations.   The questions were mostly about foreign contacts, foreign travel, leaking classified info, and such.  However, this CI poly also seems to venture into my personal life about drug and foreign women (I am a straight male).  I was harshly interrogated and accused of hiding something, but I held my ground and instead thought about just quitting and walking out of the whole damn thing.

This was for an IC contractor job.  To this day, I don't know if I got the job because I haven't heard anything.  Though my background check was completed with my references contacted and all that jazz.  My POCs either don't respond or just give me some vague update.   

Is this normal for a polygraph session to take the whole freakin day?!   
Is it normal for a CI poly with the IC to ask about my personal and social life?

I left there and went straight to the liquor store.

I would have went to my dealer and bought some weed if it wasn't for this stupid security clearance.

Thoughts about this fiasco?