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Topic Summary - Displaying 9 post(s).

Posted by: gfd Posted on: Aug 14^th, 2020 at 12:31pm	Mark & Quote Quote
the "technique" looks like Relevant Irrelevant to me. R/I has a 50% false positive rate. outcome largely based on impressions rather than data

Posted by: Russ V Posted on: Aug 14^th, 2020 at 2:59am	Mark & Quote Quote
Another source to consult is the American Polygraph Association in bordering US states. In some cases members in NY, VT and WA state members consult and know his/her Canadian counterparts. While the Canadians have a good association, the APA in the USA is a plethora of good information for all things polygraph.

Posted by: Tim Z Posted on: Aug 13^th, 2020 at 1:05pm	Mark & Quote Quote
The other place to get your answer to your CM question is from the Canadian Association of Police Polygraphists. CM methods are not covered into later in the class. Go to www.canadapolygraph.ca. ; Your instructors have to be members of this organization to even teach in Canada.

Posted by: George W. Maschke
Posted on: Aug 13^th, 2020 at 3:57am

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I am in Canada and going through a polygraph program.

The instructors say that you can always detect when someone is using countermeasures. Is that true in all cases?

It's rarely true. If a polygraph subject employs, say, gross physical movements, a sensor pad might detect that. However, the polygraph community has no coherent methodology for detecting sophisticated polygraph countermeasures, that is, the kind that anyone who understands polygraph procedure would employ. You'll find such countermeasures explained in Chapter 4 of The Lie Behind the Lie Detector.

"gfd's" remark that "those who just read about [countermeasures] are like fish in a barrel if the examiner follows the rules" is unsupported by any published research.

Posted by: gfd Posted on: Aug 13^th, 2020 at 12:31am	Mark & Quote Quote
You are being misinformed. Research shows identifying manipulation individuals with hands on training are difficult to detect. it is not impossible but difficult. those who just read about them are like fish in a barrel if the examiner follows the rules. sounds like in you should be concerned about your training

Posted by: Paul T Posted on: Aug 12^th, 2020 at 11:07pm	Mark & Quote Quote
I am in Canada and going through a polygraph program. The instructors say that you can always detect when someone is using countermeasures. Is that true in all cases?

Posted by: Yamess Posted on: Aug 3^rd, 2020 at 5:04pm	Mark & Quote Quote
Put it in chat

Posted by: George W. Maschke Posted on: Aug 3^rd, 2020 at 4:43pm	Mark & Quote Quote
Could you tell me as many of the questions as you specifically remember, and how you have categorized them?

Posted by: Yamess Posted on: Aug 3^rd, 2020 at 4:01pm	Mark & Quote Quote
Not sure what to do here. Is this the “concealed control”? CM on first and last? 1. Do you intend to tell the truth 2. Irrelevant 3.relevant 4. Irrelevant 5. Relevant 6 relevant 7 irrelevant 8 relevant 9 are you scared I’ll ask you something else 10 have you answered truthfully (or alternatively - did you lie on this polygraph)