1  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Share Your Polygraph or CVSA Experience / Re: My CIA Polygraph Story
 on: Today at 4:07am 
Administrator wrote on Mar 23rd, 2017 at 4:47pm:
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George/Admin,

Can you permanently delete the above post l, and this one as well? I just got a scary visit from the FBI for posting this...


We have no way of verifying that you are the author of the preceding post, and very much doubt that you are. It seems unlikely that the post's author would have received a visit from the FBI because 1) it is not illegal to discuss the CIA hiring process and 2) the author posted through the Tor anonymous network. We note that you did not use Tor.



I can't help but wonder if this "request" was not in fact a "plant" by someone in the Office of Security or Office of Personnel?
Although the information provided about the Agency application process was certainly unclassified, it nonetheless contains a level of detail about its methods that the Agency doesn't like to see disclosed or discussed publicly.   Roll Eyes

2  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Procedure / Re: Can they make me take a polygraph???
 on: Today at 3:52am 
Wandersmann wrote yesterday at 9:18pm:
Better yet, let's just polygraph the doctor.  If he doesn't pass the polygraph then he loses his license to practice medicine.


I'm sure that the AMA would never allow that to happen.   Huh Roll Eyes

3  Employment Forums (Non-polygraph related) / Intelligence Agency Applications, Hiring, and Employment / Re: Psychiatric Abuse Alleged at NSA
 on: Today at 3:45am 
ap1011 wrote Today at 2:15am:
xenonman wrote on Jun 17th, 2015 at 4:52pm:
Hasn't psychological testing and meeting with a psychiatrist always been part of application processing at NSA?



It was for me. They do a psychological battery, then put you up in a hotel room then do a polygraph the next day. During the psychological exam they ask you all sorts of intrusive questions to prime you before the polygraph.


That was absolutely the case for me when I was interviewed there in 1982. The psychological battery certainly did include some very intrusive questions, although these weren't directly linked to the polygraph. Roll Eyes

4  Employment Forums (Non-polygraph related) / Intelligence Agency Applications, Hiring, and Employment / Re: Psychiatric Abuse Alleged at NSA
 on: Today at 2:15am 
xenonman wrote on Jun 17th, 2015 at 4:52pm:
Hasn't psychological testing and meeting with a psychiatrist always been part of application processing at NSA?



It was for me.  They do a psychological battery, then put you up in a hotel room then do a polygraph the next day.  During the psychological exam they ask you all sorts of intrusive questions to prime you before the polygraph.

5  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Procedure / Re: Can they make me take a polygraph???
 on: Yesterday at 9:18pm 
Arkhangelsk wrote yesterday at 7:55pm:
If the police suspect you may have been pushing your prescription medications, then George is right, you need a lawyer, your doctor too.


Better yet, let's just polygraph the doctor. If he doesn't pass the polygraph then he loses his license to practice medicine. That is exactly what happens to honest patriots in the intelligence community every day. Let's spread this fun around. Everyone in our society needs to experience it. Then it will be outlawed for sure.

6  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Procedure / Re: Can they make me take a polygraph???
 on: Yesterday at 7:55pm 
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I filed out a police report of my medication had been stolen from me and I signed a paper saying everything I said was the truth


What you omitted seems to be key to your situation.

What kind of drug was it? Was it oxycodone or some other drug which has a high value on the black market?

Your use of passive voice is interesting, "had been stolen." Who stole it?

How did the thief get access to it? burglary?, purse/backpack snatching? or?

Did you file the police report immediately upon noticing the medication was stolen?---or only after someone else had gotten into trouble with the police?

If the police suspect you may have been pushing your prescription medications, then George is right, you need a lawyer, your doctor too.

7  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Procedure / Re: Can they make me take a polygraph???
 on: Yesterday at 4:23am 
Quote:
I filed out a police report of my medication had been stolen from me and I signed a paper saying everything I said was the truth and now I got a call saying they want me to come in and take a CVSA test down at the station. What if the test says I failed it when I am actually telling the truth? I have bad nerves anyways around cops. I don't want to take the test and I don't have the money to hire a laywer but main question since I signed that form that said I said everything was the truth of what I was saying am I going to be forced to take this CVSA test anyways? Please help quick I need to know what to do in this type of situation! The guy told the cops I was selling the pills to him which I wasn't he just stole them and is trying to make me out to be the bad guy so he gets off the hook what should I do?


In this situation you would be wise to refuse any demand that you submit to a CVSA "test" and, furthermore, to speak no further with the police unless you have a lawyer with you.

Computer Voice Stress Analysis (CVSA) is junk science invented by a huckster. It is used by police as a pretext for interrogating suspects without a lawyer present. The outcome may very well be a scripted part of the interrogation plan. (The interrogator will tell you you failed and badger you for a confession, using the "test" results as leverage.)

For more about the charlatan who created CVSA see:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr3E_2KTxI0

For more about why you should not speak with the police at all, let alone submit to an interrogation masquerading as "test," see:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE

8  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Off-Topic Posts / Re: Fire at CIA "drug lab/storage area"?
 on: Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:38pm 
Quote:
The source is the "World News Daily Report", a satire site.

The website disclaimer states

"WNDR assumes however all responsibility for the satirical nature of its articles and for the fictional nature of their content. All characters appearing in the articles in this website even those based on real people are entirely fictional and any resemblance between them and any persons, living, dead, or undead is purely a miracle."

see

https://worldnewsdailyreport.com/disclaimer_/

Good to know that!   Thanks!, Cool

9  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Policy / Re: DIA's Insider Threat Program
 on: Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:31pm 
quickfix wrote on Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:04pm:
You're not the first to say that, nor will you be the last.  We're still waiting...


...and unfortunately I'm afraid that you're absolutely correct. Roll Eyes

10  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Procedure / Re: Can they make me take a polygraph???
 on: Mar 26th, 2017 at 9:16pm 
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what should I do?


Once you have been charged (if that happens), contact the public defender in your jurisdiction ASAP.
Take NO tests of any kind. Once LE has "determined" that you're guilty, they are going to use all their resources to push for your arrest and eventual conviction! Shocked

 
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