One idea regularly kicked around Trump’s government-in-waiting is a dramatic increase in the use of “lie detectors” across the federal apparatus, to root out or charge leakers and other subversives. These devices, called polygraphs, are frequently unreliable and inadmissible in courts of law. Then-President Trump and his then-attorney general, Jeff Sessions, mulled expanded use of polygraphs during the first term, when leaks to the media were especially copious.

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Will Cain: Okay, I want to talk to you about these two ICE employees. On Friday, you announced that you had found two ICE employees who were leaking information about incoming DHS raids on illegal immigrants—criminal illegal immigrants. There's also the news that you announced, and I think it's already begun, polygraph testing people within ICE, within various departments of DHS.

Were these two individuals that you found leaking information—did you find them through the process of administering polygraphs?

DHS Secretary Kristi Noem: Well, I won't talk about each specific case, but what I will tell you is that we have been utilizing polygraphs for three weeks now, and that we do have two DHS employees that are on administrative leave, and they're going to be facing consequences for what they've done to leak these operations. So, they could face up to ten years in federal prison for what they've done and well, what they've done is by leaking the information on these ops, is they've put law enforcement lives in jeopardy.

So, we've got a lot of tools, I've got a lot of authorities under DHS. I'm gonna use every single one of them to stop these leakers and make sure that they face significant consequences for what they're doing. They're jeopardizing our national security. They're hurting the lives of people who are just trying to enforce the law, and so I'm thankful that we've you know talked about these two, but I've got several more that will be revealed here soon, and I hope they're an example to everybody else within this federal government that Predident Trump is enforcing the law. For the first time we have a president that cares what the laws are in this country, and he's going to enforce them, and he's giving us the tools we need to make sure that we can follow through on making people face consequences who break the law.