1  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Share Your Polygraph or CVSA Experience / "Well you didn't fail and you didn't Pass" CBP polygraph....
 on: Yesterday at 7:45pm 

"Well you didn't fail and you didn't Pass"

Is what my 8 hour polygraph test ended with. I waited 6 months to get to that test and it was the worst experience of my life. Im going to give all of you a little run down of what happened. I get to my testing site, I am feeling nervous but good. I pretty much felt nervous the whole time, I am just naturally nervous with accusations (it sucks). I get there and my examiner has me read some papers, makes me wait and comes to get me and we go back in the room. We have some discussions about who I am, why I wanna work for CBPO, we laugh we talk he's "befriending" me blah blah blah. So he has me read through some things and I electronically sign per usual. When he then asks me the question ... "Have you ever researched about polygraphing" I said yes. He then asks me "to what extent", I said "well youtube is a black hole and mainly just peoples experiences with any polygraph" Thats it. I mentioned that I was slightly nervous because I have heard how high the failure rate is for CBP polygraphs. I told hime that I watched a video about a 30 year marine helo pilot that failed and coincidently I was stuck on the section that the Marine Pilot had failed. We talked a little more about concerns after reviewing all the sections. I had told him that I didn't put a use of non THC CBD oil on there as I wasn't sure that it was even something I should write since its legaly purchased from a vitamin store. So then we go through the practice test after talking about the entire process first. I must remind everyone he was a really nice guy, no attitude and very professional. SO I went in and out of that room prob 7-8 times and we never made it past the first section. He would bring me back in the room and ask me "what are you thinking about when I ask you these questions" well I said "honestly? ... Terrorists, Terrorists, Terrorists," he goes "why?!" I said well I just think of terrorists coming into the country since you are asking me if I am hiding any foreign or international ties from the government and thats one thing CBPO's fight against" THEN we go through the same questions again, except this time he says "we are just going to answer honestly to all questions, and there will be no Lie or Truth questions". EVERYTIME I came back in he asks me "what are you thinking about when I ask these questions and how did you feel about the them?" I told him "I am picturing nothing in my mind and when you ask the question, I picture it in my mind and then answer." So after all this he keeps trying to get me to admit to something and I keep calmly saying things like "I honestly have no clue why we cant get past this first section" I said "its a little frustrating because I have been nothing but honest with you this entire time about everything". He insisted that the test is full proof and that maybe theres just something on my mind that i'm afraid to say or maybe i'm confusing it with something that I think will disqualify me but actually wont. So 5 pm rolls around and he says "look...you are triggering all the questions I am asking you" and i'm thinking to myself "how am I lying about the rooms lights being on?...." He says "I am going to take all of this info and send it to CBP QC, I don't have enough info to make a decision and they will be contacting you in the future." He said he thinks they will say 1 of 3 things.

1. "They will say that they are cool with where things are and that we are to move on with testing at another time."

2. "They will say we have to start all the way over."

3. or..."They will disqualify you from the application process."

So Now I'm in Limbo mode again and I have no clue what to think. He didn't even tell me if it was inconclusive or not. Has anybody experienced this before? Please reach out.

2  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / CVSA and other Voice Stress Analysis Applications / NITV Pursues Arthur Herring III in Bankruptcy Court
 on: Yesterday at 8:07am 
On 28 April 2020, Arthur Herring III, who ran a voice stress analysis company called Dektor, filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy protection in the Eastern District of Pennsylvania. In his filing, Herring estimated his assets to be worth between $0 and $50,000 and his liabilities to be between $500,001 and $1 million.

In a Statement of Financial Affairs for Individuals Filing for Bankruptcy, Herring disclosed that his sole income consists of contributions from his mother, which totaled $14,000 in 2018 and 2019 and $3,000 from 1 January 2020 through 28 April 2020. Herring also disclosed that NITV garnished $37,395.14 in bank accounts.

Herring's bankruptcy filing is Case No. 20-12141 in the United States Bankruptcy Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania.

On 1 June 2020, NITV Federal Services, LLC filed a Complaint to Determine Dischargeability of Debt against Herring, seeking to prevent him from discharging his judgment debt to NITV under bankruptcy law.

NITV's action is Case No. 20-00180 in the United States Bankruptcy Court for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania.

Whether or not NITV is successful in preventing Herring from acquitting his debt through bankruptcy, it seems clear that Herring is indigent and that NITV has little prospect of collecting much more of the $849,347.92 awarded to it last year. This seems like poetic justice, considering NITV's continued failure to pay the 2009 $575,000 judgment against it in favor of E. Gary Baker.

3  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Post-Conviction Polygraph Programs / Re: Getting violated for Purposeful Non-Cooperation Suspected
 on: Aug 6th, 2020 at 2:45am 
Done.

4  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Post-Conviction Polygraph Programs / Re: Strange format - please help
 on: Aug 3rd, 2020 at 5:04pm 
Put it in chat

5  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Post-Conviction Polygraph Programs / Re: Strange format - please help
 on: Aug 3rd, 2020 at 4:43pm 
Could you tell me as many of the questions as you specifically remember, and how you have categorized them?

6  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Post-Conviction Polygraph Programs / Strange format - please help
 on: Aug 3rd, 2020 at 4:01pm 
Not sure what to do here.  Is this the “concealed control”?  CM on first and last?

1. Do you intend to tell the truth
2. Irrelevant
3.relevant
4. Irrelevant
5. Relevant
6 relevant
7 irrelevant
8 relevant
9 are you scared I’ll ask you something else
10 have you answered truthfully (or alternatively - did you lie on this polygraph)

7  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Post-Conviction Polygraph Programs / Re: Getting violated for Purposeful Non-Cooperation Suspected
 on: Aug 1st, 2020 at 8:43pm 
@ Perry Mason
Thanks again; I checked everywhere and I didn't receive the e-mail. Will you please forward it to dmg00@protonmail.com?

8  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Action Alerts and Announcements / Re: AntiPolygraph.org Talk at HOPE 2020 Conference: Polygraph "Tests" and How to Beat Them
 on: Aug 1st, 2020 at 5:11pm 
I very much enjoyed speaking at HOPE 2020! My talk, which runs 51 minutes and 14 seconds, may be viewed online here:

https://youtu.be/nDDMXsfclIA

9  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Post-Conviction Polygraph Programs / Re: Getting violated for Purposeful Non-Cooperation Suspected
 on: Jul 31st, 2020 at 6:23pm 
Mr. Oh No,

I sent you an email to the email address then appearing for you; to-wit: stjohnxxxxxxxxx@gmail.com.  If you didn't receive it (check your spam folder), let me know or post a "throwaway" address.  Good luck.

10  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Action Alerts and Announcements / Re: AntiPolygraph.org Talk at HOPE 2020 Conference: Polygraph "Tests" and How to Beat Them
 on: Jul 31st, 2020 at 3:39pm 
Thank you, Byron! When I mentioned how a failed CIA polygraph can affect one's application with another federal agency, such as the State Department, I was thinking of the sad case of James Schneider. His polygraph occurred during the midst of the CIA's post-Ames polygraph jihad, so it's possible, as your personal experience suggests, that the impact of a failed CIA polygraph is less deleterious now than then.

 
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