1  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Share Your Polygraph or CVSA Experience / Re: My CIA Polygraph Story
 on: Today at 7:28am 
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The first question, "Is your middle name Ashley?" (yes) ..."Do you wear corrective lenses?" (yes)...  "Are you 26 years of age?" (yes)... "Is your mother's name Stephanie?". (yes) 


Annette, is this personal information true?  And did you use your real first name in this post?  Annette Ashley XXX who is 26 years old, wears glasses, with a mother named Stephanie.  Yeah, bye bye anonymity.

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"In you last relationship with a male did you have oral or anal sex?" (no).

Well, you are boring as fuck.  No wonder you did not get into the CIA.  You aren't slutty enough.  Yeesh.   Cheesy


2  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Share Your Polygraph or CVSA Experience / Re: My CIA Polygraph Story
 on: Today at 7:13am 
I too would like more detail from Annette.  I took the CIA polygraph a few years ago and was not asked a single sexual-question...until the post-test/interrogation where the polygrapher just took a shot in the dark and asked me if I looked at some "pictures".  He did not say porn, but I knew what he meant.  So I proudly replied that I do look at porn, legal stuff, only at home.  I probably should have first made the polygrapher tell me what "pictures" he was referring to.  My CIA polygraph drilled me on criminal activity, and I know why.  Of course, I failed and was denied clearance and lost the job offer.  I didn't confess to anyting, but was suspected of deception and countermeasures.  This was during the Obama days.

Could the CIA have changed their policies in the Trump days and allowed for sex questions to be asked now when they think it is appropriate? 

3  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Share Your Polygraph or CVSA Experience / Re: My CIA Polygraph Story
 on: Yesterday at 7:22pm 
Evan S wrote yesterday at 6:19pm:
This is one of the few times I agree with quickfix.

Annette's story is in gory detail, as though the polygraph is recent when memories are fresh.

I can believe that intimate sexual questions would have been asked some time ago, maybe 20 years or so.

The one CIA polygraph question that comes to mind:  "Have you ever had sex with a farm animal?"


I haven't heard about CIA polygraphers asking questions about sex with a farm animal. Have you? The one agency that I know has allegedly asked this question is the U.S. Secret Service.

I would like to hear more from Annette. Whatever else is true, we know that the CIA is an agency that, within the past 20 years, has engaged in kidnapping, torture (including torture to death), and assassination. The asking of the kind of questions that Annette recounts are tame by comparison.

4  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Share Your Polygraph or CVSA Experience / Re: My CIA Polygraph Story
 on: Yesterday at 6:19pm 
This is one of the few times I agree with quickfix.

Annette's story is in gory detail, as though the polygraph is recent when memories are fresh.

I can believe that intimate sexual questions would have been asked some time ago, maybe 20 years or so.

The one CIA polygraph question that comes to mind:  "Have you ever had sex with a farm animal?"

5  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Share Your Polygraph or CVSA Experience / Re: My CIA Polygraph Story
 on: Yesterday at 4:48pm 
quickfix wrote yesterday at 1:12pm:
George W. Maschke wrote yesterday at 9:42am:
Thank you for sharing your experience with the CIA polygraph.

You mean thank you for sharing your fantasy.  Masturbation?  Oral or anal sex?  Adultery? George, surely you can't believe these questions would ever be asked on an applicant exam by the CIA or any federal agency.  Not only are they not part of any preemployment polygraph exam, these topics are strictly prohibited from even being discussed per DOD regs.  "Annette's" story is nothing more that pure bullshit.


I would very much like that to be true. But when I applied for a graduate internship with the CIA in the early 1990s, an applicant for CIA employment staying in the same Tyson's Corner motel as I was told me she was asked similar questions during her polygraph interrogation. She had no reason to lie to me about that.

I haven't heard stories like that in recent years. Hence my question for Annette regarding the time frame during which her polygraph experience took place.

6  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Share Your Polygraph or CVSA Experience / Re: My CIA Polygraph Story
 on: Yesterday at 1:12pm 
George W. Maschke wrote yesterday at 9:42am:
Thank you for sharing your experience with the CIA polygraph.

You mean thank you for sharing your fantasy.  Masturbation?  Oral or anal sex?  Adultery? George, surely you can't believe these questions would ever be asked on an applicant exam by the CIA or any federal agency.  Not only are they not part of any preemployment polygraph exam, these topics are strictly prohibited from even being discussed per DOD regs.  "Annette's" story is nothing more that pure bullshit.

7  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Share Your Polygraph or CVSA Experience / Re: My CIA Polygraph Story
 on: Yesterday at 9:42am 
Annette,

Thank you for sharing your experience with the CIA polygraph. I would be interested to know, if you don't mind sharing, approximately how long ago this was? For example, was it this year, last year, about five years ago?

8  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Share Your Polygraph or CVSA Experience / Re: My CIA Polygraph Story
 on: Yesterday at 6:06am 
I really wanted to work for the CIA but I also knew that my chances were pretty slim. The physical examination was the most through I was ever subjected to. The doctor just told me what she wanted me to do and gave the results to an attendant who recorded them on a chart. I do remember having my blood pressure checked sitting in both arms,standing in left arm and prone in the right arm. The doctor checked my breasts and then did a internal exam. This was most unpleasant. After doing that,she left the room and the assistant told me I could get dressed. No mention was made as to my passing the physical and I didn't ask.  That afternoon I was given my first polygraph. The examiner was a woman who went right to the point. She explained that the machine was very advanced and could detect any form of deception. I was then asked if I had ever been polygraphed before. She said the whole purpose of the examination was to determine the truth. She then proceeded to attach a rubber tube above my breasts and one around my stomach. A cardiocuff was wrapped around my upper left arm. I started to feel apprehensive and had some palpations but I managed to calm myself. Skin sensers were attached to two fingers on my left hand and one larger one that covered about a third of my middle finger on my right hand. I should mention that there was a pad on the chair that I sat on and another where my feet rested(I had been asked to remove my high heels). I learned later that these devices and ones built into the arms of the chair detected even the slightest of movement. The examiner sat behind and to right of me. After I was hooked up to the machine, she again urged me to tell the truth. I was to answer all questions truthfully and quickly with a yes or no. I was instructed to sit perfectly still and keep my feet flat on the floor. She then said "I'm going to inflate the cuff." I felt the pressure of it instantly but it wasn't as tight as when your blood pressure is being checked. More than a minute went by before the first question. I assume she was getting a baseline reading. I felt rather calm. She went after me right away. The first question, "Is your middle name Ashley?" (yes) was followed by "Did you graduate from college?" (yes)  Are you now or have you ever been in a relationship with another woman?" (no). Do you wear corrective lenses?" (yes)  "Do you practice masturbation?" (yes). "Did your steal from your mother's purse when you were young?" (no). "Did you steal from your last employer?" (no).  "Did you ever have a relationship with a married man?" (no).  "Are you 26 years of age?" (yes). "In you last relationship with a male did you have oral or anal sex?" (no). "Did you answer all the questions for your medical history truthfully?" (yes). "Are you taking any medications for your heart or blood pressure?". (no) "Is your mother's name Stephanie?". (yes)  This dual went on for over forty five minutes. She stopped the examination, deflated the cuff and left the room. I sat completely still. I knew she was watching me through a mirror or on camera. When she returned, she stressed the need to tell the truth. "Its important that you answer all questions truthfully." This is where they attempt to pry information out of you. They want to give you the feeling they know you are "lying"  Actually, I was telling the truth!  She inflated the cuff and off we went for round two.The last question in this session was this: "Your charts indicate some deception".  Does this surprise you?" (yes). With the test over, she unhooked from the machine and thanked me for taking the test. I slipped on my shoes and left.

9  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Share Your Polygraph or CVSA Experience / Re: My CIA Polygraph Story
 on: Yesterday at 4:14am 
Bill_Brown wrote on Oct 15th, 2011 at 12:56am:
You may not be aware of polygraph use in Europe, check this link and become more educated about Europe and Polygraph.

http://books.google.com/books?id=Qp5oYrody-AC&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=european+polyg... polygraph law&f=false


10  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Off-Topic Posts / Re: How to spot a U.S. spy overseas, and how to plant a bug
 on: May 18th, 2018 at 3:53am 
It is a well known fact that the CIA, NSA, and other U.S. spy agencies work inside the U.S. consulates and embassies abroad under some cover.  Once you know the inner workings, these spies are easy to identify. 

The U.S. government has a classified list called the Security Environment Threat List (SETL), where countries are ranked in 5 categories: political violence, terrorism, crime, human intelligence (HUMINT), and technical intelligence (TECHINT/SIGINT/ELINT/COMINT).  The rankings are given from low, medium, high, and critical. The HUMINT and TECHINT categories are classified, but I will tell you anyway.  All of Russia, China, Hong Kong, Vietnam, Cuba, Venezuela, and North Korea all are ranked high or critical in HUMINT and TECHINT.     In these countries, the U.S. spies take extra precaution.  You will not see them making close friends or having personal relationships with the locals.  They will work on the top floor in the classified area (CAA) of the embassies under the cover of the Information Processing Center (IPC), Management Office, Political & Economics Office, and may even sneak in on a TDY under the Engineering Office.  They tend to keep a low profile and will never want to go out for drinks or anything with the locals.  So if you are a local citizen in these countries and you work at the embassy or consulate and these Americans are always declining your social invites, they may be spies.  Also, they may not have Facebook page or will decline to be your Facebook friend.  Their travel orders will have a slight difference, and there EER annual performance review will be nothing but bullshit fluff because their real EER for their agency (CIA or NSA) will go through another channel.

The best way to "plant a bug" inside the classified area of a U.S. embassy in a critical HUMINT or TECHINT country is to plant the bug on an employee that you can retrieve later.  There is no standard screening method for U.S. employees who have unlimited access to the CAA (blue badges).  Plant a small retrievable recording device that does not emanate any RF signals inside the employee's shoe, wallet, watch, clothing, or even hotel key card.  These items are not scanned, scanning employee's personal items is random (like once a year, if that).  However, if you give the employee a gift, then it will be scanned because it is assumed that the local staff put a bug in that gift.  Then make sure the device records long enough and has enough battery so you can retrieve it a day or two later.  If the employee talked anything classified, you have got it!

Some middle eastern countries like Pakistan, Iran, Syria, and Iraq have high rankings as well in other categories.


 
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