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Sorry for the late reply! Most law enforcement agencies use a probable-lie "control" question "test" (CQT) with relevant questions similar to those asked in Phase II of the federal Law Enforcement Pre-Employment Test (LEPET) format:

https://antipolygraph.org/documents/ncca-lepet.pdf#page=12

The LAPD polygraph unit has embraced the federally-coordinated Polygraph Law Enforcement Accreditation (PLEA) program and now uses the federal Law Enforcement Pre-Employment Test (LEPET) for applicant screening. The LEPET administrator's guide may be downloaded here:

https://antipolygraph.org/documents/ncca-lepet.pdf

The PLEA Polygraph Guide for Standards and Practices may be downloaded here:

https://antipolygraph.org/documents/plea-guide-2018-10-25.pdf

In addition, the LAPD Polygraph Unit Examiner Reference Guide may be downloaded here:

https://antipolygraph.org/documents/LAPD%20Polygraph%20Unit%20Examiner%20Referen...

and the LAPD Technical Investigation Unit Polygraph Unit Guidelines may be downloaded here:

https://antipolygraph.org/documents/LAPD%20Polygraph%20Unit%20Guidelines%202019-...

To Criminal,

I would advise you to cease and desist with any further information.  Law enforcement use a variety of tactics to get criminals to either confess or provide enough information to lead to an arrest warrant.  In your case, if your story is true but you did indeed lie or skew your personal details, that was smart, however you should stop posting right now!  One common law enforcement method is to accuse a perpetrator of lying, challenging his or her intellect or stoicism, or just flat out saying to the perp that he or she is too stupid and cowardly to even have the ability to commit the crime.  The perp then tries to prove how smart and tough they are and convince the law enforcement officer that he or she could commit the crime, gives more and more information that he or she thinks is inconsequential, and then boom!  Enough evidence for an arrest!   Please do not fall for this.  It is bad enough you are telling your story trying to gloat on a public form, but I think you have said enough.  Let quickfix, George, and others argue over how true or untrue your story is, because George is right about criminals rarely confession on public forms, and quickfix would love to know more information so he can see you arrested, so he will keep poking holes in your story to get you to post more information.  As of now, your identity is still safe, but no more posting.  Run along and enjoy the fruits of your labor...er...treason....in peace.

(I have no pronoun) Warning

George W. Maschke wrote on Jun 1^st, 2020 at 8:03pm:


That much we are in complete agreement with.  And if you notice above, the poster has admitted that a part of his story is "bullshit".  His "5% bullshit" is undoubtedly BS as well.  Conservative estimate:  add a zero after that 5!

quickfix,

My point is that while the precise meaning of the term "loss of jurisdiction" within the JPAS system may be very clear to you, it does not follow that all cleared personnel will share your understanding. It is for this reason that I think the original poster's (mis-)use of the term ("since I was no longer employed, no new employer could get my clearance back.  Something called loss of jurisdiction") is much of a basis for concluding that his core claims are baseless.

I think the most significant reason to be skeptical of Criminal's claim to have sold classified information to a foreign entity is simply that it is highly unusual for anyone to make such a confession on a public forum (even anonymously, even using Tor).

George W. Maschke wrote on Jun 1^st, 2020 at 7:27pm:


Exactly:  it's not a specialized term of art;  it is an official adjudication category;  and since you have no knowledge or training in the JPAS system, you should not be offering opinions about a topic of which you have absolutely no experience.

quickfix, no offense taken. I have indeed never used JPAS, and I welcome your informed commentary.

You note that "contractor facility security officers do have JPAS accounts so they may enter incident reports." This being so, and "Criminal" having allegedly been a government contractor, I still do not see how his reference to JPAS ("An incident report went into JPAS...") derogates from his credibility.

When I characterized "loss of jurisdiction" as an arcane bit of jargon, I wasn't suggesting that it is not a bona fide JPAS entry. But it is a specialized term of art whose precise meaning is not readily apparent to those who do not routinely work with JPAS.

George:  no offense but you are woefully unqualified to render opinions about the use of JPAS.  I have JPAS access, in fact my agency requires formal training as a condition of being granted an account.  NSA does not use JPAS.  CIA does not use JPAS.  NGA does not use JPAS.  NRO does not use JPAS.  I will clarify one thing, contractor facility security officers do have JPAS accounts so they may enter incident reports;  the above 3-letter agencies do not.

"Loss of jurisdiction"  means exactly what I said it means.  It is not an "arcane"  piece of jargon;  it is a bona-fide JPAS entry. (And BTW, I was in adjudications before I was in polygraph.)  I so stated more than once in posts years ago on this site.

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You do the antipolygraph cause no service by lying. Also, I would caution you against admitting to any crime in any forum.

George W. Maschke wrote on Jun 1^st, 2020 at 8:43am:


Thank you, George.

quickfix wrote on May 31^st, 2020 at 8:52pm:


Actually, on a scale of 0 to 100, only about 5 of what I said is bullshit.

The truths:

I did lie and pass the polygraph.  How did I do it?  Just from research, remaining calm, and using mental countermeasures on control questions.  It is not hard once you know what to expect and you are prepared for the comical interrogation, which is just like something out of a movie.  I did conceal many crimes that I’ve done in the past.  The list I provided in my original post is not exclusive.  I did work for a contractor where I knew of many bad things that my coworkers and bosses did and got away with.  I did lose my job and security clearance due to an incident and had an incident report put in JPAS.  I did try to apply for other clearance job and was told they could not process my clearance due to an incident report.  I even got to see the incident report.  I did sell classified info to a foreign entity for a ton of money.  The term ton is subjective.  I did not specify the amount.  What I consider a ton of money you may thing is more or less.  Foreign entities pay good money for any classified information whether it is tangible or in a person’s head. I laundered the dirty money of course, so I was never caught and there is no record of me ever receiving this money.  You don’t have to believe this story if you want to defend and protect the almighty polygraph and our robust national security protocols that prevent these things from happening, but you and I know there are many criminals who are never caught.  Never.

The bullshit:

Details about my personal life.  I know the feds monitor Antipolygraph.org.  I read this story on here before and did not want this to happen to me, as I fear user KC1 may have gotten thrown in prison.  In case the feds decide to investigate my post, they can look up all the contractors in the last 20 years who lost their job and clearance, I’m sure there are countless numbers of us.  Good luck picking me out, it will be like finding a needle in a haystack.  I skewed some of the details of my personal life, including the incident that led me to lose my clearance, to protect my identity.  I also posted using Tor and a bullshit email address.

I wrote this post to share my story and proof that the polygraph does not work.  I also wanted to finally confess, and somewhat brag, that I got the last laugh with the U.S. government.  I was pissed when I lost my career, so I decided to royally fuck the government one good time before it was all over with.