1  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Policy / Re: Doug Williams Polygraph Trial Discussion Thread
 on: Today at 5:09am 
On 10 February 2017, the U.S. Department of Justice filed a brief in opposition to Doug Williams' motion that he be allowed to engage in polygraph-related activities during his upcoming period of supervised release:

https://antipolygraph.org/litigation/doug-williams/doug-williams-united-states-o...

As noted on the blog, the Department of Justice effectively concedes that polygraph countermeasures are effective.

2  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Policy / Re: DIA's Insider Threat Program
 on: Today at 2:56am 
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I understand the USD(I) is responsible for enforcing DODI policy, but every time I try to blow my damn whistle, I end up being referred back to DIA.


My understanding is that the polygraph policy for all military and intelligence agencies comes from the Director of National Intelligence (DNI).  The DNI is heavily influenced in a bad way by Congress and the polygraph lobby.  The unbreakable part of the sinister iron triangle appears to be Congress.  There are a few congressman such as Senator Grassley (IA) and former Representative Holt (NJ) who occasionally conduct oversight hearings pertaining to polygraph abuse, but most of our elected representatives are getting their palms greased by the billion dollar polygraph lobby and therein lies the problem. 

The only thing that could get DOD and executive branch agencies to follow the law and stop polygraph abuse would involve a morally courageous person to become DNI or get enough congressmen to ignore the polygraph lobby and provide meaningful oversight over its excesses.  Unfortunately, I think the odds of Lot finding 10 good men in Sodom and Gomorrah were much better than the odds of finding one good morally courageous man or woman in the upper echelons of our government.

3  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / The Lie Behind the Lie Detector / Re: Didn't work for me
 on: Yesterday at 3:41pm 
Confused 2 wrote on Jan 27th, 2013 at 5:28am:
I do have a little bone to pick with you though.  There are numerous references to "beating the polygraph".  To me, that implies making lies appear to be the truth.  I don't think that is the goal of this site.  After reading most of the site, it appears to me that the real goal of this site is 1) to abolish the use of the polygraph, and 2) insure that truthful answers are interpreted as such.  I haven't read anything on this site that would be effective in making a lie appear to be the truth.  And if I might add, rightly so.


Long-time lurker and I agree with you. I have not found any useful coherent information on how to get a favorable polygraph result. The board comes across as spam. They have all these "simple" methods to beat the test, but those methods are complex. So if you failed one using the suggested "simple" methods, then it's because you did not use the "simple" methods.

From what I read, I just don't know why you can't answer your own questions when given a question by an administrator. For example, if you are asked if you stole money, then you say to yourself "I am not answering that question. But I will answer if I killed JFK" and state "no."

4  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Policy / Re: DIA's Insider Threat Program
 on: Yesterday at 2:03am 
I was told the specific reason, as was my congressman - for my inability to successfully "complete" multiple polygraph examinations.  They come right out and say it in a letter from the Congressional Relations Division.

DIAI 5200.002 was enacted 03 JUL 2014 when LTG Flynn was in charge.  It directly contradicts the higher authority DODI 5210.91 - almost word for word.  When I complained to DOD that their regulations were being violated, they declined to investigate and referred my complaint to DIA for their information and appropriate action.

They are getting away with this abuse and no one can stop them.  I understand the USD(I) is responsible for enforcing DODI policy, but every time I try to blow my damn whistle, I end up being referred back to DIA.

5  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Policy / Re: DIA's Insider Threat Program
 on: Feb 17th, 2017 at 11:58pm 
Google the case of former DIA employee John Dullahan, who was terminated for allegedly failing 2 (or 3) polygraphs.  Was not told the specific reasons.  DIA cited the following little-known clause: if national security might be harmed, the reasons for termination need not be disclosed.

He successfully won his lawsuit.

I'll go out on a limb by speculating it was a case of age discrimination.  You may fire away quickfix!

6  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Policy / Re: DIA's Insider Threat Program
 on: Feb 17th, 2017 at 11:35pm 
It is worse than everyone thinks.

No confessions - period.  No attempts at countermeasures either.  No written findings were ever produced. I sat through five polygraphs in three years with results alternating between "No Opinion" and "Significant Response."

I was stripped of my clearance, made to occupy a meaningless position in an unclassified area for 10 months, then involuntarily reassigned to HQ DIA.  These are all considered "Unfavorable Administrative Actions" (Code of Federal Regulations, Title 32: National Defense, Part 154 - Definitions).

I filed an IG Complaint with DOD. After a sloppy investigation - I obtained everything through FOIA - the case was closed when officials from DIA and SOCOM pointed fingers at each other and denied any responsibility.

The question is, how can we get DOD to enforce its own regulations?

7  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Policy / Re: DIA's Insider Threat Program
 on: Feb 17th, 2017 at 11:14pm 
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Reputations, careers and lives are forever ruined by senior officials who willfully violate approved and relevant regulations in an effort to advance themselves.

It is against Public Law (100-347) to use polygraph results as the sole basis for taking unfavorable or adverse action against the general public.  Polygraph tests are inherently probabilistic and to use the results alone as justification for punishment is strictly forbidden.


It is worse than you think.  The way they get around the "......results alone" mandate is to falsify confessions.  This is the real crime.  A browbeaten victim pushed to the brink of reality by the twisted logic and incessant hammering of the polygraph examiner may make some confused utterance which is then categorized as a "confession".   The "confession" added to the charts are then verified by the polygraph lynch mob in the security division of whatever agency it involves and no innocent person thus framed stands a chance. 

8  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Policy / Re: DIA's Insider Threat Program
 on: Feb 17th, 2017 at 5:27pm 
John,

Thank you for sharing this information. I would be interested to know more about what is happening. Could you share documentation of polygraph results being used to punish DIA personnel, and could you share it with us?

I would welcome information from anyone with knowledge of such abuses at DIA to contact me via Signal Private Messenger or Wire. My contact information is in my signature block below.

9  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Policy / DIA's Insider Threat Program
 on: Feb 17th, 2017 at 5:08pm 
On October 7th, 2011, then-President Obama established an Executive Order, “STRUCTURAL REFORMS TO IMPROVE THE SECURITY OF CLASSIFIED NETWORKS AND THE RESPONSIBLE SHARING AND SAFEGUARDING OF CLASSIFIED INFORMATION.”

The intent of this Order, was to stop any further WikiLeaks-style disclosures.  As a result, the Insider Threat Task Force was formed and directed to find potential traitors.  Individuals in this Task Force aggressively target employees that exhibit specific indicators.

Within the Defense Intelligence Agency, this Task Force has morphed into the “Insider Threat Program” and works with the “Creditability Assessments Program” for the Office of Security.  For this program to succeed in its mission, it must identify and mitigate potential threats. Unfortunately, innocent federal employees are being abused in the process, as their polygraph results are being used to punish them.  Reputations, careers and lives are forever ruined by senior officials who willfully violate approved and relevant regulations in an effort to advance themselves.

It is against Public Law (100-347) to use polygraph results as the sole basis for taking unfavorable or adverse action against the general public.  Polygraph tests are inherently probabilistic and to use the results alone as justification for punishment is strictly forbidden.  Department of Defense Instruction (DODI) 5210.91, SUBJECT: Polygraph and Credibility Assessment (PCA) Procedures, affords this same protection and civil liberties for Federal Civilians.

The overriding mandate in this regulation is that Polygraph examinations are a supplement to, not a substitute for, other methods of screening or investigation.  No unfavorable administrative action (to include access, employment, assignment, and detail determinations) shall be taken solely on the basis of the results of the polygraph examination

It is indisputable fact that this is happening.  My numerous attempts to stop this injustice have so far gone unsuccessful.  Inspector Generals at all levels are unable, or unwilling to enforce the regulations.  Even my congressman and senators are helpless.

This policy must be stopped immediately and someone held accountable!


10  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Policy / Re: XENONMAN - ban him!!!
 on: Feb 17th, 2017 at 1:59pm 
quickfix wrote on Feb 16th, 2017 at 7:48pm:
I will continue to "troll" and mock the fools like yourself.


By the way, Quicktrick,  "trolling" is another term for internet bullying.  I'm glad you admitted that is what you do.  It's in sort of a gray area right now between first amendment protected and criminal activity.  Lot's of prosecutors are trying to open the floodgates on prosecuting it.  Although the powers-to-be can't decide on whether or not it's a crime, everyone agrees that people who do it are a**holes.  I hope it doesn't trip you up on your next polygraph, but then you probably know how to use countermeasures and you also know that the "box" is a joke anyway.   Roll Eyes

 
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