1  Employment Forums (Non-polygraph related) / Police, Sheriffs', and Corrections Departments Applications, Hiring, and Employment / Re: Concerns for NYPD candidates, Investigation
 on: Yesterday at 10:27pm 
I had the medical today. Everything was going fine I filled out all the paperwork correctly. I received an investigator and 10 min before everyone was getting assigned for their Jst they said if you received a new investigator to step outside. It was about 3 or 4 of us. At that time they told us we could go and that are investigator would be in touch? Any idea what this means???

2  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Off-Topic Posts / Re: CIA and China
 on: Yesterday at 2:09am 
xenonman wrote on May 22nd, 2017 at 9:18am:
I wonder if Langley or the American Embassy in Beijing have any "Chinese moles", who undoubtedly all passed their employment polygraphs!


I also doubt the Chinese used the polygraph to uncover the CIA agents.  They don't use the polygraph and are effective.  We use the polygraph and are not effective.  The only thing accomplished by our use of the polygraphs involves the creation of wealth for a lot of corrupt people.   Wink

3  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Policy / Re: H.R.2213
 on: May 22nd, 2017 at 11:56pm 
Something has happened to this Bill.  It was on the schedule for last week - http://docs.house.gov/floor/Default.aspx?date=2017-05-15.

It never made it to the floor.  Click on "next day" at the bottom of the page and see for yourselves - http://clerk.house.gov/floorsummary/floor.aspx?day=20170515

I tweeted @RepMcSally (the Bill's sponsor) to ask what happened to it - she has yet to reply.  Not holding my breath.




4  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Policy / Re: H.R.2213
 on: May 22nd, 2017 at 8:10pm 
I checked all three C-Span channels, but there was no discussion of the CBP or polygraphs that I could find. Cool

5  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Share Your Polygraph or CVSA Experience / Re: Second poli
 on: May 22nd, 2017 at 7:56pm 
I would like to know the time frame to get the poli result from the agency and would it be from email or mail.

Please let me know if anyone have the answer.

Thanks for any info.

6  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Off-Topic Posts / CIA and China
 on: May 22nd, 2017 at 9:18am 
According to recent revelations in the NY Times, the CIA's spy ring in China has recently been rendered inoperative.

I wonder if Langley or the American Embassy in Beijing have any "Chinese moles", who undoubtedly all passed their employment polygraphs!  Cheesy Grin

7  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Procedure / Re: Polygraphy as Pseudoscience
 on: May 22nd, 2017 at 9:07am 
Wandersmann wrote on May 21st, 2017 at 11:12pm:
Arkhangelsk wrote on May 20th, 2017 at 9:08pm:
If it had not been for the moderate thinking of Gorbachev, the wall would probably still be there.


Ark -  Actually, an excellent point.  You are correct.  If we could only find some moderates in the polygraph and security communities to lighten up on the Soviet-style banishment of people who have trouble with the poly. 



Maybe that will happen on the day that Americans will finally rush and then tear down the barriers surrounding Langley, in a manner similar to that moment in 1989 when the East Berliners finally rushed the barriers which surrounded West Berlin, and also forced their way into Stasi headquarters.

Until that exalted day arrives, I don't see much hope for serious reform of any aspect of the IC. 

Unfortunately I don't see any American version of Gorby emerging on the horizon!  Sad

8  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Policy / Re: H.R.2213
 on: May 21st, 2017 at 11:56pm 
Here’s the Committee on Homeland Security’s report to Congress. 

Some interesting comments in this.  Most noticeably, last month, the CBP piloted a "revised version" of its polygraph examination with the intention to improve polygraph “pass” rates.

-      “(the Bill) can provide CBP with immediate relief so that they are able to quickly, yet judiciously, hire officers and agents from a pool of applicants that already maintain the public’s trust and put their lives on the line for our security and safety on a daily basis.”

-      “We are simply losing ground every single month, and there is no end in sight as we continue to lose agents and officers through attrition, without the ability to quickly hire new ones. At the current hiring rate, approximately 150–200 applicants go through the process in order to hire one agent or officer. This means CBP needs to have hundreds of thousands of people apply just to meet their current needs. Hiring more agents and officers will boost our national security and bring good jobs to our local economy.”

-      “The Committee is concerned with CBPs inability to reach its current authorized employment levels and the impact to the Nation’s security and economic growth causes by CBP officer and agent shortage. As a result, the Committee is providing this temporary waiver authority for these three, narrowly tailored exemptions to alleviate the immediate shortage of CBP officers and Border Patrol agents while changes are piloted to the polygraph examination.”

-      “Though the Committee recognizes that this measure may improve, on a limited basis, CBP’s ability to onboard new employees, there are larger challenges associated with the hiring process, most especially as relates to the polygraph program. The Committee intends to carry out oversight of the use of this waiver authority in addition to any reforms CBP may consider for the administration of its pre-employment polygraph examinations. The Committee is aware that CBP launched a pilot to test a revised version of its polygraph examination in late April 2017 with the intention of improving pass rates, shortening the overall time needed to administer the polygraph, and potentially address concerns about how these polygraphs are administered.”

Legislation begins tomorrow at noon on C-SPAN – set your DVRs!


9  Employment Forums (Non-polygraph related) / Federal Law Enforcement Applications, Hiring, and Employment / Re: FBI Rejection Letter
 on: May 21st, 2017 at 11:20pm 
quickfix wrote on May 19th, 2017 at 5:31pm:
Засунь их себе в задницу, ёбаный ублюдок!


Hey Quickfix -      Loop Bars ! Cheesy Grin

10  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Procedure / Re: Polygraphy as Pseudoscience
 on: May 21st, 2017 at 11:12pm 
Arkhangelsk wrote on May 20th, 2017 at 9:08pm:
If it had not been for the moderate thinking of Gorbachev, the wall would probably still be there.


Ark -  Actually, an excellent point.  You are correct.  If we could only find some moderates in the polygraph and security communities to lighten up on the Soviet-style banishment of people who have trouble with the poly.

 
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