1  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / The Lie Behind the Lie Detector / The Paperback Edition of TLBTLD Is Printed in NCCA's Hometown
 on: Yesterday at 8:48am 
I ordered a couple paperback copies of The Lie Behind the Lie Detector to verify that the print quality is satisfactory. (It is, and I'm quite pleased with it.) I was satisfyingly surprised to see that they were printed at Amazon's facility in Columbia, South Carolina. Columbia is also home to the National Center for Credibility Assessment, the Mecca of the pseudoscience of polygraphy. It seems somehow appropriate.

Wink


2  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Policy / LE Agencies That Don't Polygraph
 on: Jan 14th, 2019 at 3:46am 
Hi,
I failed a federal polygraph a few years ago, well aware that its all BS. However, I think a lot of us would benefit if we compiled a list of legitimate LE organizations that do not polygraph, and have thorough BI standards.

Thanks!

3  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Procedure / Re: Question on Control Questions...
 on: Jan 12th, 2019 at 4:27am 
JMacadoo,

Refer back to page 104 of TLBTLD (5th edition). You don't really get to choose how to answer the "control" questions. The polygraph operator will review them with you in the "pre-test" phase and exclude any admissions you might make until you provide the expected answer (usually "no").

4  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Procedure / Re: Question on Control Questions...
 on: Jan 12th, 2019 at 1:17am 
I am trying to give myself the best chance to pass this test by preparing.  It is too important a step in the hiring process (while unfortunately at the same time being unreliable) to just wing it.  Apologies if I came across as trying to be deceitful...  ok well maybe I am...  but it's because I do not want to put my faith into a test that is known for giving false positives... not because I have something to hide from the examiner.

So for the control questions, is the examiner factoring my "yes" or "no" into his reading of my physiological signals?  Or is he just strictly reading my physiological signals?

5  Employment Forums (Non-polygraph related) / Federal Law Enforcement Applications, Hiring, and Employment / Re: CBP Polygraph Failure
 on: Jan 11th, 2019 at 10:03pm 
Anthony,

Thanks for sharing your polygraph experience. What happened to you has happened to many other well-qualified, honest applicants for employment with CBP and other federal agencies.

The discomfort you felt from the blood pressure cuff is common, and in fact, polygraph operators sometimes deliberately overinflate the cuff to cause pain. A training document leaked to AntiPolygraph.org mentions doing precisely this as a way of punishing examinees who breath more slowly than the operator would like:



We will be addressing this abusive practice in the next edition of The Lie Behind the Lie Detector and hope to see it discontinued by all federal agencies without delay.

As you note, CBP's misplaced reliance on polygraph screening, which is regrettably mandated by federal law, is preventing it from reaching its recruitment goals. But it provides steady work for the charlatans who give the "tests." Note that many of CBP's polygraph operators are retired federal employees supplementing their pensions with contract work. The longer the interrogations go, and the more the applicants who "fail," necessitating more "testing," the more work there is to go around for them.

6  Employment Forums (Non-polygraph related) / Federal Law Enforcement Applications, Hiring, and Employment / Re: CBP Polygraph Failure
 on: Jan 10th, 2019 at 8:04pm 
boo-hoo, the office was small;  boo-hoo they strapped me in a chair;  boo-hoo they bombarded me with questions;  boo-hoo, my arm hurt.

The best thing to happen was your failing.  CBP does not need whining, sniveling toads.

7  Employment Forums (Non-polygraph related) / Federal Law Enforcement Applications, Hiring, and Employment / CBP Polygraph Failure
 on: Jan 10th, 2019 at 7:15pm 
Back in 2017 I was in process to become a Customs and Border Protection Officer. I passed the examination, background check, physical agilities portion, and drug test. I received a call from the Polygraph Examiner for the appointment. I sat in a small office, strapped into a chair like a criminal, and bombarded with questions for hours, while having a blood pressure cuff cutting out the circulation to my arm. If someone tunes out their arm going numb and getting the questions right, hats off to you. The result of the exam is that I failed without anything explanation. After the bad news the Polygraph Administrator was talking like a "friend" and stated if you have any additional information you could write it down and choose something from a list. Apparently I did a serious crime or something. I've never In my lifetime done a serious crime to be failed like that. No wonder over 60% of the applicants fail. How is an agency going to hire 5,000 qualified officers with this pathetic waste of time. In 2010 this came into the process, yet for the first 8 years of the agency it wasn't in sight. So for this I thank Barack Obama and the stupid administration circus he ran. Eliminating corruption I understand and the agency doesn't want people to be paid off from the cartels, or accept any type of bribes but if someone doesn't have anything in there background that indicated anything negative, works in a job that demands security, trustworthiness and privacy which would be a solid indication of a "qualified candidate". In my opinion, I would of made a great employee. That process was probably the worst thing I've ever encountered in my life. 

8  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Policy / Re: DIA's Insider Threat Program
 on: Jan 9th, 2019 at 9:25pm 
Check out this video. "How DIA Monitors Employee Behavior – Steve McIntosh".

This is the guy that this whole thread is about. Makes me sick to even listen to him. Notice how he says they have oversight on what the IG is doing?

https://www.govtechworks.com/talking-tech-how-dia-monitors-employee-behavior-ste...


9  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Policy / Re: Arrested NSA Contractor Hal Martin "Passed at Least One Polygraph Test"
 on: Jan 9th, 2019 at 8:53pm 
Kim Zetter reports for Politico that it was a tip from Russian computer security firm Kaspersky Lab that led to the identification and arrest of NSA contractor, hoarder of classified data, and polygraph beater Hal T. Martin III. Excerpt:

Quote:
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/09/russia-kaspersky-lab-nsa-cybersecurity...

Exclusive: How a Russian firm helped catch an alleged NSA data thief

The U.S. has accused Kaspersky Lab of working with Russian spies. But sources say the company exposed a massive breach that U.S. authorities missed.

By KIM ZETTER

01/09/2019 05:01 AM EST

The 2016 arrest of a former National Security Agency contractor charged with a massive theft of classified data began with an unlikely source: a tip from a Russian cybersecurity firm that the U.S. government has called a threat to the country.

Moscow-based Kaspersky Lab turned Harold T. Martin III in to the NSA after receiving strange Twitter messages in 2016 from an account linked to him, according to two people with knowledge of the investigation. They spoke with POLITICO on condition of anonymity because they’re not authorized to discuss the case.

The company’s role in exposing Martin is a remarkable twist in an increasingly bizarre case that is believed to be the largest breach of classified material in U.S. history.

It indicates that the government’s own internal monitoring systems and investigators had little to do with catching Martin, who prosecutors say took home an estimated 50 terabytes of data from the NSA and other government offices over a two-decade period, including some of the NSA’s most sophisticated and sensitive hacking tools.

The revelation also introduces an ironic turn in the negative narrative the U.S. government has woven about the Russian company in recent years.

Under both the Obama and Trump administrations, officials have accused the company of colluding with Russian intelligence to steal and expose classified NSA tools, and in 2016 the FBI engaged in an aggressive behind-the-scenes campaign to discredit the company and get its software banned from U.S. government computers on national security grounds. But even while the FBI was doing this, the Russian firm was tipping off the bureau to an alleged intelligence thief in the government’s own midst.

"It's irony piled on irony that people who worked at Kaspersky, who were already in the sights of the U.S. intelligence community, disclosed to them that they had this problem,” said Stewart Baker, general counsel for the NSA in the 1990s and a current partner at Steptoe and Johnson. It’s also discouraging, he noted, that the NSA apparently still hasn’t “figured out a good way to find unreliable employees who are mishandling some of their most sensitive stuff.”

“We all thought [Martin] got caught by renewed or heightened scrutiny, and instead it looks as though he got caught because he was an idiot,” he told POLITICO.



10  Polygraph and CVSA Forums / Polygraph Procedure / Re: Question on Control Questions...
 on: Jan 9th, 2019 at 8:22pm 
JMacadoo,

Please keep in mind the immortal words of Dr. David T. Lykken, "No good social purpose can be served by inventing ways of beating the lie detector or deceiving polygraphers."

In other words, if you lied (and you said you did), shame on you for coming here looking for a way to deceive. And shame on whomever is relying on your polygraph results as proof of your truthfulness. It's ridiculous.

Unfortunately, every year, thousands of truthful job applicants and government employees fall victim to false positives, or what the "experts" call, "Significant Response".

Like Dr. Lykken said, "if I were somehow forced to take a polygraph test in relation to some important matter, I would certainly use these proven countermeasures rather than rely on the truth and my innocence as safeguards; an innocent suspect has nearly a 50:50 chance of failing a CQT administered under adversarial circumstances, and those odds are considerably worse than those involved in Russian roulette."

To sum it all up, had I known about these techniques five years ago, I could have saved myself a boatload of trouble.

 
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