I was referring to your comment about determining pass or fail prior to collection and evaluation of the data.  I don't do that and I do not personally know any other examiner who does.

Apology accepted, and again I don't conduct screening tests so I can't comment intelligently about what they do or don't do.  My comments are regarding criminal testing only, as I previously stated these two areas of polygraphy are completely different and mixing them in the discussion is not an accurate way to address the topic.

As I stated I understand you and I disagree on the point regarding who should or should not test.  I agree to disagree with you here.

With regard to the effectiveness of countermeasures, thats certainly one opinion.  To those who would stake their futures on it, I say take a look at the thread in this forum titled, To those who have tried countermeasures, or words to that effect.  I personally know of 17 people who would disagree with the guidance provided on this site, that performing countermeasures as describe in the download makes it easy to pass a polygraph.  They tried, they failed.  Yes, they confessed.  And of course since they didn't follow your guidance to the letter George, I understand you bear no responsibility for their failures.  Obviously they didn't study the download hard enough, or practice the countermeasures long enough with enough dilligence.  But wait a minute, thats beginning to sound pretty hard.  They must have just been inept because its obvious anyone who spends 30 minutes prepping can beat a poly, right George?