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Message started by Brad S, on Dec 3rd, 2018 at 1:30am

Title: Re: BORDER PATROL POLYGRAPH - TAKE OR FORGET IT?
Post by Doug Williams on Dec 3rd, 2018 at 4:08pm

George W. Maschke wrote on Dec 3rd, 2018 at 2:41pm:

Aunty Agony wrote on Dec 3rd, 2018 at 2:25pm:
George, never miss an opportunity to explain that Chad Dixon and Doug Williams were *not* convicted for the crime of teaching countermeasures, but for abetting the crime of lying to government officials.

Saying that Chad and Doug were convicted of "teaching countermeasures" is tantamount to saying that a lawyer who is sanctioned for perjury or witness tampering has been punished for "practicing law".


You're absolutely right. While it's true that CBP targeted Chad and Doug because they were teaching people how to pass or beat polygraph "tests," their undercover agents set up other "crimes" with which to charge them (wire fraud, obstruction of an agency proceeding, mail fraud, and witness tampering). It is not a crime to teach polygraph countermeasures.


You can attribute to me whatever motive you like but the fact remains that if I can teach a person how to "beat" a polygraph test and pass the test by knowing how to manipulate the charts so as to produce a "truthful" chart regardless of whether you're telling the truth or lying, that is prima facie evidence polygraph is absolutely worthless as a lie detector.  My prosecution and conviction proves that I can in fact do this and further that the government knows damn good and well that I can. Which begs the question - why in the hell are they still relying on the polygraph to protect our national security and the integrity of the criminal justice system?

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