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Message started by David on Mar 1st, 2017 at 1:42pm

Title: Failed 5 polygraphs
Post by David on Mar 1st, 2017 at 1:42pm
I have failed 5 polygraphs in the last year and I am starting to get concerned I will never pass one.

My first experience was with the secret service. It was almost a 7 hour test where I was actually yelled at by the polygraph examiner for lying to him! (I was not lying) I was brought back a second time because my polygraph was inconclusive. He told me to rescind my application and told me to "lower my moral integrity" after the exam. I have never done drugs. I was randomly drug tested in college for athletics, even during summers. But the question I was consistently inconclusive for was the drug question apparently.

The FBI told me I failed there polygraph, but was told by the examiner that he personally believed I was telling the truth, but I have to pass the polygraph exam to be employed. He told me how to appeal. I am currently in the appeals process for the FBI. He also told me that the secret service polygraph examiners are notoriously bad and use aggressive tactics during the exam to cut people. Since I was a recent grad, he may have been trying to cut me.

I then took an exam for my local police force. He admitted that he gets kids who have religious upbringings and they fail all the time for stupid reasons. We went over everything, and he even laughed at some of the stuff I told him. (I was escorted out of the mall because I was dropping chocolate on two - what I thought at the time - attractive girls in high school). The examiner said my results looked good. He even said I was over qualified to be a police officer and would move up the ranks quite quickly, but three days later I was called back for another exam... I did not pass the next exam.

I am very confused. I have disclosed everything to them, even stuff they laughed at me about. If I can't pass a polygraph, I can never go into any of the fields I want to. No offense to any cops in here, but I can't even be a local police officer? I even was the fastest candidate in the physicals by a long shot... except for a former enlisted marines who was 2 to 3 seconds behind me.)

I am currently trying to pass medical for the marine corp OCS. Hopefully that goes a bit better.      

Title: Re: Failed 5 polygraphs
Post by Aunty Agony on Mar 1st, 2017 at 2:05pm
"dropping chocolate"?

Title: Re: Failed 5 polygraphs
Post by David on Mar 1st, 2017 at 2:12pm

Aunty Agony wrote on Mar 1st, 2017 at 2:05pm:
"dropping chocolate"?


Ya I dropped some round chocolates on some girls from the level above to get their attention. Mall cops surrounded us and said we broke a law about dropping stuff from a certain height. The police were called, but they didn't want to arrest 14 year olds so they forced the mall to only ban us for 30 days instead of making an arrest, which the mall cops were insisting on...

It was stupid. 

Title: Re: Failed 5 polygraphs
Post by Arkhangelsk on Mar 1st, 2017 at 7:01pm

Aunty Agony wrote on Mar 1st, 2017 at 2:05pm:
"dropping chocolate"?

Aunty, I'm curious to know what imagery came to mind...

Title: Re: Failed 5 polygraphs
Post by xenonman on Mar 1st, 2017 at 7:17pm

Ex Member wrote on Mar 1st, 2017 at 7:01pm:

Aunty Agony wrote on Mar 1st, 2017 at 2:05pm:
"dropping chocolate"?

Aunty, I'm curious to know what imagery came to mind...


Probably a certain ubiquitous substance, less delicious than chocolate, but for which the term "chocolate"' is frequently employed as a euphemism. ;D ;D

Title: Re: Failed 5 polygraphs
Post by xenonman on Mar 1st, 2017 at 7:19pm

wrote on Mar 1st, 2017 at 2:12pm:

Aunty Agony wrote on Mar 1st, 2017 at 2:05pm:
"dropping chocolate"?


Ya I dropped some round chocolates on some girls from the level above to get their attention. Mall cops surrounded us and said we broke a law about dropping stuff from a certain height. The police were called, but they didn't want to arrest 14 year olds so they forced the mall to only ban us for 30 days instead of making an arrest, which the mall cops were insisting on...

It was stupid. 


If no arrest was made, then probably the only record of the incident would be an incident report in the files of the mall's rent-a-cops.  A BI would likely not uncover that.    8-)

Title: Re: Failed 5 polygraphs
Post by xenonman on Mar 1st, 2017 at 7:24pm

wrote on Mar 1st, 2017 at 1:42pm:
"lower my moral integrity"


What exactly did your SS polygrapher mean by that?   It seems that to me that, in theory at least, moral integrity would be a quality valued by any LE agency . :-?

Title: Re: Failed 5 polygraphs
Post by Aunty Agony on Mar 2nd, 2017 at 2:26am

Ex Member wrote on Mar 1st, 2017 at 7:01pm:

Aunty Agony wrote on Mar 1st, 2017 at 2:05pm:
"dropping chocolate"?

Aunty, I'm curious to know what imagery came to mind...


I dunno, maybe a sort of Candy-Crush version of dropping acid?

Dripping a melting Fudgsicle on them and offering to lick it off?

Hiding behind a Ficus and throwing Jimmies?

What OP says he was doing, I would describe as "dropping chocolates", which most people would say when they meant chocolate candies. Since he said "chocolate" instead of "chocolates" I assumed he meant something else. I couldn't settle on an image so that's why I asked.

Title: Re: Failed 5 polygraphs
Post by Lurker on Mar 3rd, 2017 at 12:44am

Aunty Agony wrote on Mar 1st, 2017 at 2:05pm:
"dropping chocolate"?

I thought it meant he was taking a shit.

Title: Re: Failed 5 polygraphs
Post by xenonman on Mar 3rd, 2017 at 10:00pm
Exactamundo!   lol  ;D ;D

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