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Message started by YoungGun on Mar 17th, 2010 at 10:21am

Title: Re: Part of the 60% failed Border Patrol applicants
Post by Iamanon on Feb 4th, 2012 at 11:15am
I love how it kept the quote and deleted ALL my information so I have to write it all again. If I didn't know what you all were going through, I probably would have quit already. That being said, here it goes.

It seems quite a few of you failed the "drug" question. Let me know.... how was the question phrased? If they asked did you ever use drugs? And you said no. Then you probably did lie. Now, don't get upset, let me explain. Did you ever take a Tylenol for a headache? Vitamins for a healthier body? Pepto when you were sick? etc. Guess what... all drugs. If the question was, Did you ever take illegal drugs, that's a bit different. But, did you ever take pain killers for a broken arm, perhaps? If any of my questions above you have answered yes too, and you said no on the polygraph, you lied and your body gave you away. I doubt you did it on purpose, as I wouldn't have thought of all of these things without over 100 hours of polygraph research. Even if you don't think about taking vitamins or Tylenol, your mind remembers and that gives you a fail. If you're thinking, but illegal drugs wouldn't be taking pain killers when prescribed. Again you're right, but its your subconscious talking, and with all the hype recently about people using legal drugs ILLEGALLY, your subconscious likely screwed you, for lack of a better word.

To help reiterate this point further I will give you an example I recently read. During a divorce case a man's ex-wife accused him of touching his daughter's breasts. He took 2 polygraphs and failed both. Distraught and knowing he was innocent, he hired help. The man he hired asked him if he'd ever wiped off his daughter's shirt, when she was a baby, because she'd spilled spaghetti or something else on it. He said, of course he has. How did you wipe off her shirt without touching her breasts? The man took another polygraph where the question was phrased "Did you touch your daughter's breasts for sexual gratification?" He answered no, and passed the polygraph.

These tests are evil and innacurate for reasons like this. A simple subconscious thought of something that was completely innocent, like wiping your daughter's shirt, or taking a Tylenol, and brand you a sex offender or drug user.

I don't know if this helps anyone here, or even fits with what you went through, but if so, I hope, if nothing else, it at least makes you feel a little bit better about failing something, knowing you are innocent. It happens everyday probably 100 times a day. You are not alone.

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