AntiPolygraph.org Message Board
Polygraph and CVSA Forums >> Polygraph Policy >> Polygrapher John Grogan Sues Polygraphers Joseph Paolella, Jack Trimarco, and Ralph Hilliard
https://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1225538847

Message started by George W. Maschke on Nov 1st, 2008 at 11:27am

Title: Re: Polygrapher John Grogan Sues Polygraphers Joseph Paolella, Jack Trimarco, and Ralph Hilliard
Post by George W. Maschke on Nov 2nd, 2008 at 5:58am

SanchoPanza wrote on Nov 1st, 2008 at 7:28pm:
Didn't Agent Tremarco tell you that he detected deception in your responses on your polygraph?


Yes. But he was wrong.


Quote:
I would never have known that he caught you, but for your own statement. btwThanks.


As I also point out in my statement, "Too Hot of a Potato: A Citizen-Soldier's Encounter With the Polygraph," I was completely candid with Mr. Trimarco. He didn't "catch" me and he didn't "detect deception." His invalid test produced erroneous results.


Quote:
If he followed FBI Policy at the time, his findings must have been confirmed or you would have been retested.


No. None of his findings were confirmed. Had it been "confirmed" that I had been "caught" lying when I (truthfully) denied that anyone had directed me to seek employment with the FBI, when I (again truthfully) denied having undisclosed contact with anyone from a non-U.S. intelligence service, and when I (yet again truthfully) denied having disclosed classified information to any unauthorized individuals, then one would expect to find me vacationing at the Grey Bars Hotel.


Quote:
You asked who would polygraph the polygraphers. I simply answered your question and gave you a familiar example of his qualifications from your own statement.


Considering that Trimarco was dead wrong in my case, you chose a poor example. In any event, there is no evidence that he (or Paolella, or Hilliard) are any better than John Grogan is at the black art of polygraphic lie detection. Moreover, if this legal battle of the polygraphers is to be resolved by polygraphy, the polygrapher(s) performing the service shouldn't be parties to the case, don't you think?  ;)

AntiPolygraph.org Message Board » Powered by YaBB 2.6.12!
YaBB Forum Software © 2000-2024. All Rights Reserved.