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Message started by skip.webb on Oct 15th, 2007 at 6:40pm

Title: Re: Latest Study Indicates "Lie Behind the Lie Detector" Hurts Innocent, Doesn't Help Guilty
Post by 1904 on Oct 19th, 2007 at 1:54pm

Barry_C wrote on Oct 19th, 2007 at 1:23pm:



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Who told you I was a professor?


Your pomposity suggests that you think you are one.

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Now that's arrogance.  I think you might want to look that one up.  (You'll find it before "gullible," but do you really need to be obnoxious?)


Well, most folk who read your para above might come to the conclusion that you are indeed arrogant
and overflowing with self admiration. ( I guess someone has to )


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I'll answer and respond to intelligent and cordial questions, but I don't have time for foolishness.  You sound much like Gizmo...?


Thats because I am Gizmo. You aint bright Noddy.


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Backster came up with the idea of the seven-point system.  Utah modified it based on scientific findings.

Took you awhile. First had to finf that old 1980's journal?


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What's your point?  Computerized polygraphs were available to examiners in 1992, but CPSLAB has been in continual development for about 30 years.  Computers were used in the lab before 1993, which is how examiners got them.


Computerised polys were in the lab circa 1992. Not prior. So how did your scientists use CPS together
with analogue polygraphs ?


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You try to sound as if you keep up with the research literature, but you fail to be aware of some of the more common studies.  Why is that?


Arrogant. Obnoxious. You sound like doos Barry, why is that?


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The paper to which I referred was published in 1988, and yes, it was a peer-reviewed publication, and yes, it was a comparison of computers verses humans.


What was that...? Survivor Laboratory Series...starring Barry 'C'


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Deciding I know better than my superiors about how to do their jobs would be arrogance.

I think you've crossed the rubicon already Professor. 


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I can voice my concerns, opinions, etc, but how they make decisions about whom to hire and where to draw the cut-off lines is up to them - not you and me.


Tell someone who actually cares about your drivel.


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I responded to your questions.  Have you any formal college education?


No. I only read Captain Marvel comic books.



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I don't have time to teach you statistics, research methodology and a host of other topics you need for a foundation to have some of the discussions you would like.  


Actually, I think the only things you could teach me are traits that get one bitch slapped on a Friday night.


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Now, let's get back to the topic.  The computer was able to score charts in which CMs were employed, and they CMs didn't help the guilty, and they hurt the innocent.


Yadda Yadda Yadda. Dont you ever get tired of that boring old refrain.
You wouldnt / couldnt detect a good CM if it bit you in the ass.


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As we speak, there are people working on computer algorithms to evaluate how computers could better do that task.  Someday, maybe we'll be able to save the innocent who are mislead and encouraged to try to "help" themselves.


And Icarus will fly to the sun and back.


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I'm off for a while, and I don't know that I'll have access to a computer.


Hopefully.

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