Barry_C wrote on Oct 18^th, 2007 at 10:43pm:

The Utah system is the most researched system in the world.  To say it's not peer-reviewed is just wrong.  It's not "their" invention - whoever "their" are.

Once having said Utah, 'their' would refer to Utah. Try to keep up.
Utah = Utah uni crim faculty.
Did Backster or Utah develop 7 point ?


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The system was built upon Backster's; however, scientists found his system to be lacking in some areas, so they ......

Who are 'they'....? What is 'the system' ?
Who found 'it' to be lacking and why?



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I believe the CPS (computer) scoring was published in a peer-reviewed journal.  I'd have to check.  It was written in the 80's if you want to hunt it down yourself.

Computerised polygraphs first appeared in 1992.
Polyscore was developed in 1993 by 2 statisticians from Hopkins uni.
I would be v interested to see peer-reviewed studies from the 80's.


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What errors?  That's a philosophical question, and it really doesn't matter what I think.  It matters what my employer thinks.

I guess it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks outside of a narrow world.
Your response smacks of arrogance & egotism.




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With that said, it depends.  In a criminal test where there is no real risk of "failing" (at least in my state), then an error only means you wait two hours for the interrogation that was going to happen anyhow.  In a screening situation (and that's what seems to irk you), you're dealing with a different animal.  I have the freedom to take all the time I need with candidates, and as a result I can get almost everybody through - eventually.  That doesn't mean they get hired.  It just means we can get to the point of truthfulness. For those agencies that have 100 people in line, 99% of whom are more than qualified for the job, then you can set the bar high and only accept those that can make it through a test extremely biased against the truthful (which means better at catching liars).  The cost of errors there is that you lose good people (probably), but you replace them with equally qualified people. So you see this isn't really a polygraph question.  It's philosophical, and most examiners aren't in positions to make those decisions. I'm sorry for the brevity, but I've got a child tapping on me for my attention.

Talk about getting off topics......I bet you recite the magna carta in your sleep.
Thank goodness I never asked you a long question.