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Title: Peter J. Brannon Identified as Polygraph Operator Who Falsely Accused Byron Halsey Post by George W. Maschke on Jul 13th, 2007 at 12:20pm
The polygraph examiner who in 1985 falsely accused Byron Anthony Halsey of deception regarding the rape and murder of his girlfriend's two young children is Peter J. Brannon of Green Brook, New Jersey. Confronted with the polygraph results, Halsey ultimately made a false confession. This year, after 22 years behind bars for crimes he did not commit, Halsey was exonerated by DNA evidence.
According to Brannon's website, he is a past president and life member of the American Association of Police Polygraphists. To the polygraph examiners reading this: no one becomes a polygraph examiner hoping to falsely accuse the innocent. Peter Brannon, a one-time Catholic priest, must be devastated by what he did. But you need to know that no amount of training, no amount of experience, can make up for polygraphy's lack of scientific underpinnings. Understand that you are practicing a voodoo science. It's time you stopped pretending otherwise. Quote:
For previous discussion of the Halsey case, see DNA proves Byron Halsey's Innocence, falsely accused by a polygraph. |
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Title: Re: Peter J. Brannon Identified as Polygraph Operator Who Falsely Accused Byron Halsey Post by Sergeant1107 on Jul 15th, 2007 at 10:17am wrote on Jul 13th, 2007 at 12:20pm:
This is an excellent point, George. Unfortunately, I have the feeling that when polygraph examiners hear of a verified "mistake" by a fellow examiner, they certainly just shrug and think something like, "Well, I bet the guy was lying about something." I have had lots of people on other message boards tell me that during my three pre-employment polygraph "failures" I must have been lying about something, perhaps even something I didn't even know I was lying about, which is why I failed. The amount of people out there who are just unable to accept the fact that it is possible to tell the truth and "fail" a polygraph is frustratingly large. |
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Title: Re: Peter J. Brannon Identified as Polygraph Operator Who Falsely Accused Byron Halsey Post by Brettski on Jul 16th, 2007 at 4:11am
"After administering polygraphs for the last 15 years, you learn some very interesting things about people,'` said Brannon. ``Such as, probably 70 percent of the people tested are being truthful.'`
Gulible brettski: WOW! Golly gee mister, so you mean 3/10ths of society are just outright, pathalogical liars? Boy oh boy, I'll never believe anything unless they're hooked up to a polygraph! Cynical brettski: Well, there's been a lot of debate about a polygraph's accuracy since, well, since it was invented. It seems a lot more believable that the error rate of a polygraph is around 30%. Seriously, could society even function with so many people lying at any given time? Personally, what I really hate about polygraph examiners are the claims they make for sheer shock value. Some of the stuff they say doesn't even make sense. For example, there's this company in the United Kingdom named Distress Services, a 'profesional lie detector testing service,' They have a websight where the discuss the value of the polygraph for anyone and everyone. The make a particularly interesting claim about the merits for pre-employment screening with polygraphs: Pre Applicant Screening With over 25% of job applications containing a lie about serious matters such as previous convictions or drug taking, your company could be exposing itself to unnecessary risk. The present day threat of terrorism has also exposed many organisations previously not at risk to a new and real danger. Please contact us for further information on how our services can assist you in the recruitment of personnel and the security of your business. http://www.polygraphs.co.uk/services.asp Gullible brettski: Oh my God! Terrorists could be in my office right now! Save Me! Cynical brettski: Hold on! That doesn't make any sense! How could 25% of job applicants be lying about prior convictions when less than 1% of any country's population is actually in prison? Are 25% of us are shooting up on hard drugs? Maybe the 25% of people failing the drug use question are actually just false positives. I know that's a lofty theory, but maybe, just maybe, mankind isn't hopeless. I remember reading up on the infamous Dr. Marston. Who apparently preffered to have female employees because he viewed men as being more violent, dishonest, and lazy. I guess his groundbreaking research revealed the failings of the Y chromosome. Honestly, does polygraph training teach their students to lose faith in humaninty, or just to turn their brain off? P.S. I'm new to discussion boards. How do I do that cool quote in a box thing? |
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Title: Re: Peter J. Brannon Identified as Polygraph Operator Who Falsely Accused Byron Halsey Post by George W. Maschke on Jul 16th, 2007 at 4:56am
Brettski,
In the interview, Peter Brannon did not suggest that 30% of the population are "pathological liars." Your inference that he did is mistaken. Similarly, in the polygraph advertisement you cite, it wasn't claimed that 25% of job applicants have prior criminal convictions, but rather that 25% of job applications (not applicants, and there is not necessarily a 1:1 ratio between them) contain a "serious lie" (omission of a prior criminal conviction being just one example thereof). While the polygraph company's assertion may be questioned, misrepresenting it and setting up a straw man argument to knock down is no way to go about doing so. Brettski wrote on Jul 16th, 2007 at 4:11am:
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Title: Re: Peter J. Brannon Identified as Polygraph Operator Who Falsely Accused Byron Halsey Post by 1904 on Jul 16th, 2007 at 6:42pm Brettski wrote on Jul 16th, 2007 at 4:11am:
Maybe he was just a horny old devil..? |
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Title: Re: Peter J. Brannon Identified as Polygraph Operator Who Falsely Accused Byron Halsey Post by Brettski on Jul 17th, 2007 at 12:05am Quote:
lol, I was just joking around George. Indeed, I did use a sarcastic license to exagerate the statement for comedic effect. If it wasn't clear that the post was meant to be humorous in nature, I'm sorry. However, Brannon does state "You learn some interesting things about people." In this context, I'd say 'people' is refferring to all people with a global scope, and he is talking about human nature when he states the "70% of people tested are being truthful" if you continue to use the same context for 'people.' My view is that's a depressing statistic that's untrue to say the least. I found it amusing, and I'm a jerk. I think it was fairly obvious that I wasn't making a formal accusation. Yes, I also noticed the careful choice of words by Distress Services, but again, the context clearly suggests that a large portion of the population is prone to drug use in spite of what I call a phony disclaimer. A phony disclaimer is when someone knowingly makes a statement in such a way that they can deny what they really meant when they said the statement. For example, when someone says: "I'm not racist, but..." You know there about to say something that actually, is extremely racist, they just don't want to be judged for it. Similarly, when Distress Services says that 25% of job applications contain a serious lie, such as drug use, what they technically said is clearly different from what they want the reader to think. 25% is a big number, and drug use is a powerful word: they naturally go together. On the flip side, a "serious lie" is not a common use term or phrase that refers to anything in particular, it's just filler. Context and innuendo is far more important than technicallities. The entire meaning of any sentence changes when someone holds their arms in front of their chest. Think about when stores sell choclate bars for 99 cents. No one can say their technically misleading anybody, but there's an obvious deception taking place through the context of placeholders. Quote:
Indeed 1904, the horny old devil theory has strong arguments. So does the bondage fetish theory. LMAO, gosh, I'm funny. Trust me guys, one day we'll look back on this discussion and laugh. We'll be like "Hey, remember that time Brannon ruined the life on an innocent man? Ha Ha" Well... maybe we won't be saying that, but I still say my post was funny. Everyone loves a good rant. |
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Title: Re: Peter J. Brannon Identified as Polygraph Operator Who Falsely Accused Byron Halsey Post by Administrator on Jul 17th, 2007 at 3:49pm
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Title: Re: Peter J. Brannon Identified as Polygraph Operator Who Falsely Accused Byron Halsey Post by Ronald R Parton on Jun 3rd, 2008 at 12:26am
Mr. Brannon,
My name is Ronald Rigoberto parton, I am the man the union county prosecutors office framed for the arson in new jersey. They had every reason to suspect the land lord of the building. They had an ey witness place him there twenty minutes before the fire, They utilized your polygraph test and an informant for a detective in cramdon to obtain my original warrant of arrest. I went to trial and was found guilty because my public defender dishored my right and constant requests to have a luthern priest brought in to court as my character witness to testify as to my involvement with homeless resources as a homeless advocate. Sir, is there anyway in hell I can utilize your statements to over turn my original conviction. I spent four years to the day in prison for a crime I did not do. It has haunted me all my life. I spend every day of my life seeking vindication by my acts as an activist for social and environmental concerns. The only thing I;'ve ever wanted to take to the grave with me is a story I call, "The Westfield Crossing". They framed me and they framed me real good. For Gods sake tell me there is some way for me to be vindicated and exonerated from that crime. There were times in my cell in trenton state prison I thought about lying and just saying the land lord, Ralph Rapiano, payed me to do it so that I could take him down. It didn't matter be that I was already in prison. What mattered was making that bastard pay for what he did. He did it and I know in my heart he did it. He was the only one that had everything to gain from the arson. Please contact me, I need to talk about this. activateamericatrademarks@hotmail.com activateamerica@hotmail.com |
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Title: Re: Peter J. Brannon Identified as Polygraph Operator Who Falsely Accused Byron Halsey Post by Ronald R Parton on Jun 3rd, 2008 at 12:32am
"Oh My God, I just realized today is June second, it has been twenty years to the day they framed me. If someone would have been hurt, or killed in that fire, I would still be serving time in Trenton State Prison for a crime I did not do."
wrote on Jun 3rd, 2008 at 12:26am:
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Title: Re: Peter J. Brannon Identified as Polygraph Operator Who Falsely Accused Byron Halsey Post by Santiago Soto on Dec 14th, 2010 at 9:35pm
In reference to Byron Halsey, he was without a doubt involved
in the murders of those two beautiful children. Common sense will tell you that. He was in charge of caring for them. He has a history of drug charges. He had his buddy over, they probably got high and did their evil deed. Please do not defend Mr. Halsey. He is an evil man. Your child may be next. |
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Title: Re: Peter J. Brannon Identified as Polygraph Operator Who Falsely Accused Byron Halsey Post by Arthur on Feb 12th, 2012 at 3:13pm
Way to add insult to injury, Santiago. Interesting how you didn't bother to mention the actual murderer even once.
wrote on Dec 14th, 2010 at 9:35pm:
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