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https://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1136825201 Message started by George W. Maschke on Jan 9th, 2006 at 7:46pm |
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Title: Re: Al-Qaeda Has Read The Lie Behind the Lie Detector Post by TheNoLieGuy4U on Mar 17th, 2008 at 6:17am
TwoBlock,
We agree that it is unfortunate that standards should not be lowered. It is a mathamatical fact that since the pill came into effect that couples simply aren't having as many children in this generation from which we choose future employees now ie; the post Vietnam war era youth. My statements are that I have observed that few are available from which the agencies you mentioned can choose from, which answers your question about their hiring so few of the applicants that come through the door. AND Yes, many of the applicants can't even meet the lower standards as well. There is no burr under my saddle, as my horse is in a comfortable pasture. You say: I have been trying for many years to upgrade our standards or at least hold them to status quo. I get a lot of complainers but very little help. With your experience in government work, why don't you turn your energy toward raising the standards of this country instead of continually bashing George and this website with the same old rhetoric day in and day out with not a chance of changing anyone's mind. I wonder in what way you have tried to upgrade standards, as your efforts in either trying to eliminate polygraph or if in league with those who encourage the use of CM's don't speak to that. It is only because I have held the standards high that I stand out here among the few. What you call the same old rhetoric is only a messege you can't absorb, fail to recognize, or won't submit to. Good Men and Women conduct polygraph tests everyday. They do so not as the oddballs of the forensic community, but rather having talents in both the right and left brain capacities. They derive great satisfaction in both being in the foundational efforts of helping those who come prepared to be truthful for an easy hiring decision on their part (and they need not be perfect), or screening out those who would hide those elements of their background (rationalization, outright withholding, false information, etc.). They are not in a popularity contest and don't care that you like them or don't like them, and only that the job get done right. Like any human being they have both good days and bad days. From what I read here you folks have tried to demonize them and their instrumentation as if they are not trying to help you actually get the job / meet their agencies needs. When I speak of lower standards ask yourself this. If you had an Uncle who was a nuclear scientist who had weapons grade uranium knowledge. He was trusted in his community to keep that knowledge safe from those who would do this nation harm, but then was found to be assisting the Iranians now with their intelligence program to build weapons to either harm us or our allies; how would you feel about him then. Would you continue to claim him in your family ? Would you want his lowering of the standards of conduct of someone in his former position to be preserved and just glossed over. I don't think so. I am contructively trying to wipe clear the glass from which you look at this issue and this man who carries a torch of treachery. There is nothing destructive about my writings to you, as I only want to preserve standards as you do, and I simply want you to acknowledge that government is working with the best tools it has, and in this time frame we live in part of that process is with the polygraph. Logic dictates when that capability is surpassed, the newer tool would be used. We are not going backwards, and just rolling the dice because applicants say "trust me". |
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