NLG4U

Okay, let's try a couple more direct questions.

Do you believe counter-measures CAN work in a Control Question Test?

Do you believe that counter-measures are effectively discovered the vast majority of the time?

My answer to the utility of the CM countermeasure question attempts are best represented in my Three Musketeers submission.  To clarify, I would say that I believe you have no way of really tracking this successes you claim.  Most of the posters here are from those who DID NOT get the job, or any successive job with a poly test.  That group is talking, but only talking about what they DID NOT achieve.  Second, those who used CM's, but perhaps too little, made no difference in the outcome.  Those who used too much stood out as physical countermeasures are detectable, and mental countermeasures are being picked up via the measure of what is known as "Drift".  Again, none of this is perfect, but we all agree technology only gets better with time.  

 You ask then, what about those who did CM's just right ?  Well in regard to an applicant, they may not have passed their overall background, or may have been out competed by another applicant, or simply not worked out in the special cultures they would have to adapt to.  There really is no way of tracking this for your benefit, as the agencies are not talking to you, and those caught do not report this on this site.  What I believe is that if you go into a polygraph test with a deceptive practice in mind that this is then a contant variable, and will show in the overall micro question, or macro test, or otherwise in the greater background.  

The mindset recommended here is not much different than the kid in grade school who was a smart kid with a flawed personality who tried to influence those not as sharp to cheat.  When they were caught could the smart kid really expect not to be punished when he said to the school authority "I was only trying to help" ?   Ofcourse not, he would be appropriately spanked.  Same said for the others.  All Brats.