ODIN wrote on Dec 10^th, 2005 at 12:46am:

You give yourself away. You calling me a lier is like the pot calling the kettel black. I have been trying to prove my honesty and integraty. However at every turn I am attacked and forced to defend myself. I don't respond emotionaly to "yea, how does it feel", because you made me care less that you were branded a lier. I am willing to bet you did lie and are just made because you got caught. The only lier between the two of us is you. I pass all my polygraphs and I had to take two before I even went to the school. You failed yours, and your bitter. You let these emotions bleed over, had project your hostility onto others you don't even know as a result. "The entire polygraph profession is built on the idea of "just trusting" polygraphers, from the polygraph session itself to whether or not polygraphs work in general and should be used.  And so far, what I've seen has solidly convinced me that such trust, to say the least, isn't warranted. Perhaps, instead of challenging others to "prove" their honesty, Odin should consider how he can do the same.  Considering his colleagues, he's starting from a bit of a deficit" This has made it clear to me that I am waisting my time here. Anything I say no matter how well researched or right will ever be thought about. There are many points that I have made that have gone unreplied to because you focus on only what you can attack, rather than a good point. I haven't seen a response from Gorge either, I am willing to bet if an examiner steps up to his so called challenge he would never risk his crusade. If you all are so very conifident that what you use works the step up to the first examiner that steps up and offer up antipolygraph.org and all the rights up as a prize. I am willing to be someone will. After my reseach in counter measures is done and I have more experaince, I will step up. Only to stop this jibber jabber. Don't tell me the results will be posted on the sight, because they either won't be posted or will be posted with coments about it being "invalid Voo Doo" any way. I know when I am ready and step up. I will put My license on the table and Gorge should put everything on the table, then we will see who comes up with a royal flush. In the mean time I see that I'm waisting energy here. I will reply to a few mesages that I haven't gotten around to and after that you won't hear from me untill I am ready to call your guru out on the carpet. I will delete my profile and watch these boards to learn. To the Gentlemen on this board I hold no ill will and it has been a pleasure. I won't have my words or intentions manipulated by people how have become below me. To the others, I won't be responding to any fits of rage about this post. It is not worth my time. Your next posts are going to be telling. I know you will say 'see we made him run away, he is just another one of them" I am not running away, I am walking away from a conversation from the deaf, blind and dumb that has yeilded and aparently will yeild nothing. The old addage is true. It takes more a man to walk away from a fight. In the end there is only the truth, and the truth will set you free. The gauntlet has been thrown down. It will be intresting to see the back stepping. Put antipolygraph.org and the rights up. Put up or shut up. peace out

As I have said in the past.  The polygraph is a good interrogation "tool" in criminal specific settings.  However, it is my belief that is has no place in an employment setting.  The type of test is too broad based leaving the very real possiblity for the examinee to continue to think on a particular subject while answering completely unrelated questions thusly "tweeking" the needles.  Do I believe the polygraph works as proposed?  Yes, but only for those examinees who believe it does and subsequently provide an admission or confirmation deceit.  I do not believe polygraphs work for even slightly informed examinees.  Do I believe in countermeasures?  Not for myself, especially without the ability to attempt them while "hooked-up" and working with a polygraph examiner. Do I think polygraph has a place in monitoring of convicted sex offenders?  No, it is my opinion that there is no need for such if laws were in place which dealt fair justice to such persons (life, no parole).

In all honesty I am not sure quite what to make of your motivations in posting.  The first posts seem genuine to find out what it is that makes the anti-polgraph community tick in an attempt to better your methods for administering exams.  The later posts appear as though you decided to take your ball and go home when your writings were not readily agreed with and taken at face value.  I will give you this, you held back for quite a while on some of the less than polite and extremely inappropriate replies.  I too wish some of those rants could be ignored and I understand your frustration.  However, you must acknowledge that a great many of the posts in your direction were civil even though they were not in agreement with your position.  I hope you will come back despite some of the more rantful posters.

regards