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Title: I know I didnt lie but I failed
Post by lostfather on Nov 16^th, 2005 at 8:00pm

3 months ago I was accused of molesting my daughter. I took a CVSA on friday and today I got the results and it said I failed. They asked 9 questions.
Q1 Is your name Kevin? YES
Q2 Is today Friday? YES
Q3 Are there windows in this room? ( I was told to lie about this one) NO
Q4 Am I wearing glasses? YES
Q5 Have you ever sexually molested your Daughter? NO
Q6 Is This the Month of November? YES
Q7 Have you ever touched your daughter in order to receive sexual gratification? NO
Q8 Have you ever drivehn over the posted speeding limit? ( I was told to lie about this one) NO
Q9 Are we in the city of Conway? YES

Someone please tell me what they think about these questions

Title: Re: I know I didnt lie but I failed
Post by George W. Maschke on Nov 16^th, 2005 at 8:36pm

lostfather,

You need to understand that CVSA testing has absolutely no scientific basis and is completely without validity. The manufacturer of the device has even admitted in court that CVSA cannot detect lies.

Your "failing" this pseudoscientific "test" is evidence of nothing, and you should not be put in a position of having to explain to anyone why an invalid test yielded inaccurate results.

Title: Re: I know I didnt lie but I failed
Post by Smokey on Nov 17^th, 2005 at 9:26am

I've taken the CVSA before and the polygrapher said I had trouble with the "Have you ever tried cocaine" question. Will the same CM's used to avaid false positives on ploygraphs produce tremors in one's voice to work on the CVSA? Just curious,

-Smokey

Title: Re: I know I didnt lie but I failed
Post by George W. Maschke on Nov 17^th, 2005 at 9:33am

Smokey wrote on Nov 17^th, 2005 at 9:26am:

Will the same CM's used to avaid false positives on ploygraphs produce tremors in one's voice to work on the CVSA?

There is no reason to expect that they would, and there is no evidence that they do.

I once had the opportunity to experiment with a CVSA-equipped computer. I found that as I repeatedly said "No" into the microphone, while not under any stress at all and not actually answering any question, the computer reported that I was "deceptive" about one-third of the time. Go figure.

Title: Re: I know I didnt lie but I failed
Post by Smokey on Nov 17^th, 2005 at 9:41am

Alright, thanks anyway. When I took mine, the investigator giving it to me acted a lot like many poligraphers are described as acting like and fed me the BS about "This computer will detect any lies and if this happend, you are gone............we don't need liars around here" Da Da Da. But, even though he told me I had trouble w/ that one question, I had the interview with the chief immediately after that.

Thanks George

-Smokey