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Message started by urbannerd on Jun 19th, 2004 at 9:13am

Title: NSA TS/SCI Clearance Process
Post by urbannerd on Jun 19th, 2004 at 9:13am
I have to take the poly for a NSA clearance. Does the TS ajudication comes BEFORE the poly?.

Can you keep a regular TS if you fail and/or refuse a poly?

Thanks

Title: Re: NSA TS/SCI Clearance Process
Post by George W. Maschke on Jun 21st, 2004 at 12:32pm
The NSA will adjudicate your application for a clearance after the polygraph, not before.

Regarding the consequences of refusal to submit to a polygraph interrogation, NSA's polygraph regulation (NSA/CSS Regulation 122-03) states:


Quote:
...refusal to consent to a polygraph examination, when it has been established as a requirement for selection or assignment to NSA, or as a condition of initial or continued access to classified cryptologic information may result in an adverse action, non-selection for assignment or employment, denial or revocation of access to classified cryptologic information, or termination of employment.  Refusal to take a polygraph examination shall be recorded only in the individual's security file maintained by the NSA Office of Security.  An individual's employer, shall not be informed of the refusal to take a polygraph, nor shall the personnel files be annotated, unless such refusal requires administrative action.


I'm not sure what effect failing or refusing an NSA polygraph might have on any security clearance granted by any other government agency.

For related reading, see "Use of the Polygraph in Security Clearance Investigations" (Chapter 8 of Security Clearances and National Security Information: Law and Procedures by Sheldon I. Cohen, December 2000).

Title: Re: NSA TS/SCI Clearance Process
Post by anonynous on Jun 21st, 2004 at 10:28pm
If you do not have a TS, and do not get through the
poly, then NSA will not direct the DSS to start the TS
background investigation.  If you already have a TS,
and do not get through the poly, I know that DSS does
not look at the poly results, but looks at any derogatory
volunteered information.  The TS is granted by DSS and
the SCI by NSA.  If you have a TS, and get through the
poly, but do not get through NSA adjudication, I don't
believe that it would affect the TS, unless there are
major issues that the DSS does not know about. If you
do not get through the NSA process, then trying to get
a DoD clearance may be more difficult.  You just have to
weigh, for yourself, if getting the NSA SCI is worth
risking getting a DoD/DSS clearance.  Fun, hugh ?

Title: Re: NSA TS/SCI Clearance Process
Post by Rod on Dec 5th, 2008 at 3:19am
I am applying for a new job and it requires a ts/sci polygraph clearance.  How do I get or where do I go to get such a clearance and polygraph done.

Title: Re: NSA TS/SCI Clearance Process
Post by IAMNOTACROOK on Jan 18th, 2011 at 5:10pm
What I am seeing is that even passing both polygraphs and still am told no after adjuration and told no after my appeal that I still can keep my TS that is held by DISCO?

Is meeting at an appeals board with the risk?

IAMNOTACROOK

Title: Re: NSA TS/SCI Clearance Process
Post by Linguist on Mar 22nd, 2011 at 8:31pm
I am currenlty in the process of my BI being done for a position with NSA. I was told I would be required to take a poly after the BI is complete,(just started) told it would take 4-5 weeks and then I will be asked to come in for Poly.
reading from the post above, does it mean I will not knwo if i have a TS untill i pass the polygraph? or do i get a TS and then wait for SCI?

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