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Message started by oki on May 19th, 2004 at 4:05am

Title: Re: Would my honesty cost me my future job?
Post by I-Smell-BS-2 on May 26th, 2004 at 3:25am

wrote on May 26th, 2004 at 2:59am:


oki,

I find your post interesting, as you indicated the FBI previously disqualified you for admitting to steroid use [for two injections] 15 years ago.

Anabolic steroids are a Schedule III controlled substance.
Heroin is a Schedule I controlled substance.

See section 812. Schedules of controlled substances. Refer to: http://www.usdoj.gov/dea/agency/csa.htm

Steroids are currently a Schedule III controlled substance, and was officially introduced to the controlled substance act effective Jan 1, 1990.  Prior to 1/1/90, if caught possessing, selling or buying steroids was only a misdemeanor offense, as with a DUI.

On page 14, “Personal Declarations”, in the FD-140 FBI Background Application makes clear:

Question:
1) Have you used marijuana during the last 3 years? Yes/no.
2) Have you used marijuana more than 15 times? Yes/no.
3) Have you used an illegal drug or combination of illegal drugs, other than marijuana, more than 5 times? Yes/no.
4) Have you used an illegal drug or combination of illegal drugs, other than marijuana, during the last 10 years? Yes/no.
5) Have you used an illegal drug while employed in a law enforcement or prosecutorial position? Yes/no.
6) Have you used an illegal drug while employed in a position of high-level responsibility or public trust? Yes/no.
7) Have you ever sold illegal drugs? Yes/no. If yes, provide details.
8) Do you understand that all prospective FBI employees will be required to submit to a urinalysis for drug abuse prior to employment? Yes/no.
9) List all federal agencies and any state or local law enforcement agencies to which you have applied for employment.
10) Has any organization listed in number 9 above investigated, interviewed, tested, or polygraphed you? If so, indicate the name of the agency and the date and type of pre-screening method.
11) Are you now or have you been a member of a foreign or domestic organization, association, movement, group, etc., etc…
12) Have you been a member of a foreign intelligence organization?
13) All information on this application will be investigated.


The FBI should not have disqualified you for admitting to what could be considered "experimental use" of steroids only twice in your entire life. Not to mention, your steroid use was 15 years ago and prior to being added to the controlled substance act.

Is it possible or plausible, that you may have inadvertently admitted to using steroids within the past 3-years, or, more than 15 times total?

I’m familiar with the FBI’s drug policy and hiring process. Had your admissions to previous drug use 15 years ago [steroid use, twice] been within the FBI's drug policy criteria as per the FD-140 FBI Background Application, you should not have been disqualified.

This is of course, if the polygraph examiner believed you to be truthful. Please note that I said the polygraph examiner, not the polygraph machine.

Are you certain of the facts referenced per your initial post?



Triple x



Well Triple Excrement, it seems like you smell BS too!  How about that.  You are a little slow, but you catch a whif now and then.

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