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Moreover, Menges' suggestion that making countermeasure information available to the public should be criminalized only makes sense if 1) he believes that such countermeasures have some reasonable prospect of working and 2) he lacks confidence in the ability of polygraphers to detect them.

I would agree that number 1 would likely be a prerequisite for advocating criminalization of such practices.  However, I don't believe number 2 would be a prerequisite since, as I asserted previously, detected countermeasures could also be detrimental to examinee, examiner, agency, and perhaps to justice in general.

For the record, while I take issue with the ethicality and responsibility of this site, I would not advocate having it criminalized.  I have devoted my entire adult life to the defense of freedom, both in the armed forces and law enforcement.  As Mr. Webb stated in your cited email, it is your right to speak your opinions on this site.

On the issue of dealing with known or suspected  "informed" subjects; there are a number of ideas and methodologies, which often vary from agency to agency, examiner to examiner.  Prior to attending DoDPI, students must undergo a screening exam. Due to extensive exposure while observing exams on their assigned cases, few in my agency were completely naive to CQT when they applied for polygraph training.  Yet the senior examiners are still able to conduct effective exams on the applicants.  I know it worked for my examination.  At least one of these methods has been effective.

But now I am back to the same point, regarding informed subjects, that I have made so often regarding the countermeasure challenge.  For Mr. Webb, or anyone else, to provide information on how examiners deal with the "informed" examinees, would be quite counter-productive.  

Yes, everyone can feel free to make the same attacks to this as were made when I have asserted this regarding CMs in the past.  Feel free to go to old threads and cut and paste!! :)  But, please don't have Drew issue a challenge regarding "informed" subjects.  I can barely deal with the monotony of the present challenge countdown reminders.

Take care!

Public Servant