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Message started by Drew Richardson on May 14th, 2003 at 3:45pm

Title: Re: Audio/Video Taping of Polygraph Examinations
Post by The_Breeze on May 21st, 2003 at 5:45pm
Polygraph Malcontents and others

Interesting back and forth about taping/not taping.  Our agency always tapes as a matter of practice, but I can understand how an agency might find that cumbersome. Many things are not recorded in an applicant process (and that is why most of you are here after all) like the physical tests where folks are routinely dismissed for a lack of flexibility or a few seconds over on the run.  Those of you that have failed, and are lashing out via your polygraph experience, just what do you expect an agency to do? keep a video data bank of thousands of prospective applicants to look for the slightest impropriety?  Put your hatred of the polygraph aside for a moment and put yourself in an agency (any agency) recruiter mode.  You have hundreds of applicants a testing cycle that your administration has asked you to narrow down.  The recommendation here is to provide a video, charts and who knows what else to every applicant of the polygraph experience.  Would you do this as an administrator?  You folks sense a cover up, I say its a practical matter.  We dont send the psych tests out for review, or what questions were missed on the written, or a recording of the oral board to see if you were subject to bias / subjective scoring.  I guess any applicant, police or corporate, has to have a certain measure of trust.

Im always amused when the subject of hypocrisy comes up.  The thinking here is that the term does not fit, because we are concerned with polygraph only. Interesting.  I believe that is what the word means in this context.  Pretending to be excessively outraged about the polygraph, knowing full well that many qualified applicants are lost through a variety of other preventable causes defines the word.  When this is pointed out (and I have many times) the idea is dismissed as "off topic".
The fact that many who post here are hypocritical is undeniable in my view.
Based on my experiences, I also have to say that some of the stories presented here lack complete detail, which is expected from those that fail and do not accept an agencies judgement that they are indeed lacking.  I will tell you this, if an agency really wants you-you will be hired.  I wish I had a dollar for every applicant that swore his application was complete, failed the polygraph, and then made specific admissions in the failed area.
Capt. Jones has not only failed his FBI polygraph, but one for a reserve position.  That which repeats itself is not due to chance.  Think about it.

Im seeing alot of posters lately make comments about "dusting" polygraphers or in one hero's example using sophisticated multi level countermeasures.  If you are taking multiple polygraphs you have probably not been hired.  Perhaps you would be more specific as to the agency and the polygrapher?  As no crime is committed in clenching your buttcheeks during a pseudo-scientific ritual, what would you fear from disclosure? simply post the results, or get your charts and show those as well.  In other words stop the idle boasting, and prove how easy this countermeasure business really is. You are not working for the agency anyway, and have nothing to lose.
Awhile back George, I asked if you wanted to do this on an organized basis and post the results.  You have ignored that request in favor of unscientific, unprovable personal accounts riddled with factual omissions and exaggeration.

And as I looked around the site briefly George I noted that you are not censoring some of the same language that you felt necessary to censor in one of my last posts where BT showed his entire ass.  Is this intentional, or are you engaging in selective censorship on this "free" site?

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