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Title: Re: Unexpected reaction on today's poly Post by Guest on Apr 21st, 2003 at 10:29pm
Let me see if I can respond to all that have been kind enough to provide me with their insight...
Batman: "No," the examiner's lack of qualifications (as she herself expressed) is not what I was questioning - those were facts offered by her. What I was clarifying was her definition of the phrase "under the influence" and what it meant to her as opposed to what I believed it to mean. Her understanding and interpretation of any given word, phrase, or line of question does not necessarily bear any correlation to her professional qualifications any more than it does mine. *After reviewing my original post I realize that one thing I failed to mention was that during the pre-interview, we did review a question on the PHQ regarding driving while under the influence. Specifically, when was the last time that you operated a motor vehicle while under the influence? I answered "N/A and Never" on the paper application and she quickly jumped on it as if in complete disbelief. So, when she reviewed it during the pre-test and continued to question me, I inquired as to her definition at that point. Her response was stand-offish and vague as I'm sure she wanted me to incriminate myself or was suspecting that I was hiding behind the definition. Unfortunately, I was simply being honest and wanted to understand whether she defined "a" drink as having driven while under the influence. After more questioning and (very lttle) further clarification, I answered with a final "N/A" to the question. The questioning continued for another moment or two almost in a "c'mon, you had to have been drunk once or twice before while driving" manner, but I stuck with my final response. That is why this is the ONLY question that came to mind during the test at all - not b/c I had a personal problem with my answer, but b/c of the difficult time I had attempting to clarify the question with her. And, "no", I don't want anybody to simply agree with my perceptions but I'm glad to see that you are so adept at assuming what they are (MY perceptions) and categorizing them for me. Obviously, I have a few individuals who have already suggested that I may have made some mistakes - THAT is what I wanted to hear - insight. Not sniveling banter and assumptions, nor avoidance of the questions proposed. Which brings me back to the question I ended with....wouldn't the perception of deception and an answer defined as a lie be the same regardless of what type of "test" I was taking? or do you highly qualified polygraphists also have the ability to discern the difference between a criminal lie and a civil lie??? George: Looking back, the only reason I believe #9 to represent a control is that the examiner at the time of questioning actually asked this... Have you ever falsified (forged) an official document, you know, like a tardy slip or something of that nature? Now to me, I would have again said a resounding "No" to the base question; however, when she mentioned the example (i.e. tardy slip) I suspect that she was deliberately creating far too wide of a category for me to answer honestly without hesitation or having some difficulties....I don't know??? After I get my results (good or bad) I will question as to whether these proceedings are audio or video taped as I would love to obtain a copy if possible. Orolan: After assembling my own understanding and reviewing these questions once more myself....I also have a pretty darn difficult time discerning the difference between the relevant and control questions. And throw in her nonchalant commentary during the question formulation process and I'm lost!!! Yes, you are correct that the application and PHQ are separate pieces of information, however, when she used the word application, I assumed she was referring to the PHQ (as she had not previously seen my initial application). The initial application is a small form with a handful of questions (5, I believe) that is sent directly to HR and is designed to weed out candidates with obvious disqualifying backgrounds. The real meat and potatoes is the two PHQs that you complete throughout the application process. By the way, I am applying to a local township police department. Triple X: Although I was honest throughout the entire process, my comment regarding CMs was somewhat of a spoof directed at BatMan. I understand their advantages/disadvantages but my personal choice was not to employ them (even if it meant being labeled a false positive). Thank you for the comments however. I apologize for the disconnect regarding my initial post. I obviously failed to mention an important material fact regarding our pre-test interview relating to DUI. I'm not as experienced with the pros and cons of polygraphy as some of you and didn't initially realize its significance. In all honesty, I remember every detail of the day including the brand name of the examiner's shoes, but for the sake of brevity, I left a lot of the info out - unfortunately, that was a key piece I now see. Your continued responses and insight are appreciated! |
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