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Message started by steincj on Mar 11th, 2003 at 2:49am

Title: Re: Speak up, PRO-Poly People!!!
Post by steincj on Mar 15th, 2003 at 9:46pm


Batman wrote on Mar 14th, 2003 at 10:15pm:

Lets start small and work our way up.  Do I understand you correctly when you say that you failed your polygraph exam, not because of the inaccuracies of the polygraph instrument itself, but because of errors by the examiner?

If I misunderstood please clarify for me.


Batman,

Like I said, I am always willing to clarify.  

I did not fail because of inaccuracies int he instrument.  I have never maintained that the instrument has any flaws.  Many times I have said that I believe the instrument works, but it is the interpretation of the instrument readings that I take issue with, especailly when tactics such as the PL CQT ar employed.

Because I'm sure you don't want to read my personal statement, I'll tell you how I failed.

Pre-poly interview (application review):  Agent misreads an application question, then accuses me of omitting information from my application.  The question in question involves foreign contacts.  I provide the information they request.

Pre-poly interview (with polygrapher):  Polygrapher tells me that he knows of my omission on my application.

Polygraph:  Polygrapher tells me (day one) I am having problems with questions about foreign contacts.  I am deemed inconclusive and told to retun the following day.

Polygraph (day two):  Polygrapher tells me I am still having problems with foreign contacts.  More testing, then he tells me I am a "conclusive failure."

Post-test interrogation (polygrapher and Agent from pre-test interview):  I am given pen and paper and told to write every instance I have had involving a foreign contact.  6 pages later, the polygrapher reads it, tells me that I am obviously omitting something, and if I do not tell him, I will fail.

I told him, "In order to tell you the things you want to hear, I will have to lie."  I am shuffled out like a criminal.

Wrote letter of appeal #1:  FBI loses it, attributes it to "confusion in the change of applicant coordiantors."

Introduce myself to new applicant coordinator:  New AC immediately admonishes me for my personal statement here on AP.org.  Tells me that names of FBI Agents / polygraphers are not public knowledge.  (Is that why my polygrapher's name is used in this article from 2 weeks ago?
http://www.gjsentinel.com/news/newsfd/auto/feed/news/2003/03/04/1046809584.00353.0127.0432.html

I think it is pretty clear who the FBI polygrapher is from this story)

Wrote letter of appeal #2:  At he request of the new AC, he asked for a new letter of appeal, addressed to him.  He promised to personally handle the situation.  Have heard nothing from him for 2 months.  He has not returned my messages.

So Batman, does that clear it up for you?  I don't blame the instrument, I blame the "test."  The polygrapher was biased by the misinformation he recieved before I sat in his chair.  And for that, I failed.

And Batman, don't sell yourself short on your intellectual debating abilities.  I have seen your posts, and I know you have an ability to write well.  But your personal attacks and backhanded insults cause others to get mad at you, and I think you take pleasure in that.  But if that were the only reason you posted here, I'd be calling you "Torpedo."  Let's keep the BS out of this discussion, OK?

Chris



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