Gordon,

Earlier in this thread I asked you the following:


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...Perhaps you might care to suggest a recognized discipline within the American Academy of Forensic Sciences whose procedures and practices depend upon deception, misrepresentation, and the need for a  universally ignorant public.  I am not aware of any...

George has asked you to revisit the notion of ethics and forensic test manipulation (presumably a reference to polygraphy and polygraph countermeasures and something you further made reference to with Skeptic).  Before we launch off into the world of ethics again, I think, in order to avoid getting the cart before the horse, we need to establish what is a forensic test.  Nothing about polygraphy suggests to me that it is currently deserving of inclusion in such a grouping.  A substantive answer from you citing example(s) (again I realize that, as was the case for which you were asked to cite examples from the peer-reviewed literature establishing RI validity, you are not compelled to do so) would go a long way towards resolving this matter.  PDD-Fed, if you are there, perhaps you might care to help Gordon out again if you are so able...