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Message started by alwazracin on Jul 18th, 2002 at 11:41am

Title: Re: Need HELP with identifying control!!!!
Post by Anonymous on Sep 3rd, 2002 at 3:19pm
PDD-Fed,

Courtesy of Skeptic, the following was previously posted:


Quote:
..."The relevant/irrelevant technique has been determined by researchers to produce an unacceptably high number of 'false positive' errors (because even an innocent subject will recognize the significance of the relevant question and may react to it) and has generally been discarded in favor of other techniques that have been shown to have a higher degree of reliability."
-- U.S. District Court, Southern District of Georgia, U.S. vs. Gilliard.  


"The relevant/irrelevant technique has been conclusively shown to be an invalid technique in published scientific research...the relevant/irrelevant technique is known to produce a large number (80+%) of false positive errors (the truthful fail the test). A failed RI test should be given no weight for any purpose." [emphasis added]
-- Dr. Charles Honts...


This commentary, particularly that coming from Honts, one of the few polygraphers with any serious psychophysiological credentials and no particular friend of the antipolygraph community, is particularly damning.  Since Gordon Barland seems unable to do so, perhaps you might like to offer any contradictory evidence or statement from the peer-reviewed psychophysiological scientific literature that you are aware of.  Until you do, this nonsense remains, as George as indicated, completely discredited.  You should be embarrassed to reveal that it is even still considered yet utilized by the federal government.  

You are of course at a complete loss as to what to do...your previously heralded control question test (created to compensate for the glaring theoretical flaws with RI testing) is now so easily defeated that you are considering switching back to a previously shunned exam.  Oh my, what's a poor polygrapher to do?!?!  Because there are NO counter-countermeasures for CQT testing, the polygraph community has been forced to adopt the only, albeit insane "lie-detection" one, left to it...RI testing.  

Perhaps it is time to come out of the polygraph suites, really investigate cases, collect and protect information, and run the only sane option for you...information-based tests.  This, of course, will be the death knell for the abhorrent fishing expeditions we have come to know as polygraph screening.  But perhaps the good news for you (in addition to being involved in meaningful and productive work) is that at that point this site may have served its purpose and fade away too...

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