wrote on Jun 26^th, 2002 at 4:13pm:

1.  Unfortunately I cannot reveal the identity of my examinee, because I am the only examiner on a small PD (Sorry).

What's the problem? You would prefer to remain anonymous because you are frightened of the repercussions if your posts were attributed to you? Or, there never was a drug dealer from whom you coerced a confession?


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2.  Like most people who think they are experts on the law, just because a man confesses who initially had no intentions too when he walked in the door, does not necessarily mean the confession was "coerced."  Additionally, if you are going to argue that any confession that comes after a polygraph MUST be coerced, you might be interested in knowing that even in jurisdictions that do not allow polygraph as evidence in court, most still allow the confession that comes as a result of the exam.  These rules were made by people who obviously have a much greater feel for the constitution than you do...

First, it's the Constitution, not the constitution. As to who has the greatest 'feel' for the Constitution, I wouldn't know. I do know that in a Constitutionally limited form of government your occupation would be toast. You most assuredly do NOT wish to engage me on a debate concerning the US Constitution, polycop.

Are you trying to imply that this alleged drug dealer was fully intending to confess to his crimes the moment he walked through the door? Why the need to polygraph him then? Why did he feel the need to attempt countermeasures? Why the need to boast about an alleged confession and then scurry back to anonymity when called upon to prove your clearly worthless assertion that he 'attempted one or two particularly ridiculous "countermeasures"'?

Yes, I'm fully aware that trickery and deceit (your forté) are sanctioned by the courts as valid and legal techniques for coercing confessions. I have no problem with that.

co·erce
tr.v. co·erced, co·erc·ing, co·erc·es
To force to act or think in a certain way by use of pressure, threats, or intimidation; compel.
To dominate, restrain, or control forcibly: coerced the strikers into compliance.
To bring about by force or threat: efforts to coerce agreement.

I see no problem with my use of the word 'coerce' in this post. Or are you trying to tell us that the police do not use threats and intimidation when interrogating criminal suspects?


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3.  Although I am not doubting that Dr. Horvath made the statement you quoted.  I just wonder why he said that?

Oh, I think you know perfectly well why he said it polycop.