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https://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1012236418 Message started by Drew Richardson on Jan 28th, 2002 at 7:46pm |
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Title: Re: Polygraph Countermeasure Challenge Post by EosJupiter on Sep 5th, 2005 at 6:45am
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Caliber, well I usually prefer .50 depleted uranium rounds, but thats a story for another night. Lets see, you seem to need a refresher in constitutional law, and please do pay attention, as some of the words may be either to big or too painful for you to handle. Amendment IV The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. The part that directly relates to polygraph exams is: The right of the people to be secure in their persons Article V: No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation. Heres is the important part: nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law The polygraph by shear intent and use, and by signing any of the waivers involved in the examinations circumvents these 2 protections. And you polygraphers enjoy the fact that most subjects have no idea what their rights are. So now pay attention, mr polygrapher this may elude you, in employing a polygraph, not only are you invading the security of my person, but you are trying to get me to incriminate myself and denying me, my liberties. This includes unreasonable search. This also applies to pre-employment polygraphs as well, when they were outlawed in the US, the Courts directly quoted the 4th and 5th Amendments. And if I sound like a lawyer, I will let you decide, but I will soon finish law school, and, I plan on being a defense lawyer, and for good or bad everyone is entitled to a competent and thorough defense. And I will be damned if anyone of my clients will ever be advised to to take a polygraph or if they do, they will be forarmed and advised to use CM's Now lets see what caliber you are .... So when I pull up in my Lexus and order a cheese burger, please do have it hot at the pick up window. EJ...... Facts their is no substitute |
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