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Message started by Drew Richardson on Jan 28th, 2002 at 7:46pm

Title: Re: Polygraph Countermeasure Challenge
Post by nonombre on Sep 5th, 2005 at 4:21am

Twoblock wrote on Sep 5th, 2005 at 3:57am:
nonombre

# 1. Maybe "bragged" was a tiny bit strong in your case but, in your posts you were rather "upbeat" about your ability to detect countermeasures. Others have openly bragged.

#2. I didn't include you in this statement. It was uiop that made the statement. I agree that lawsuits may be brought against anyone for far almost anything, but why wouldn't you and uiop include Doug Williams since his for profit website was offering this info years before this site was in existance? There are other websites also. This and other reasons is why I maintain that legal action against this site wouldn't make it to the discovery stage.

As re: to what I would say to your example woman whos 12 yr. old daughter was raped and murdered by a scumbag pervert who beat the machine and its operator, "sue the hell out of the state parole office, the PO and the poly operator for stupidly putting so much faith in a machine that can be easily beaten.

The polygraph community would be illadvised to get involved in such a lawsuit. I can "feel it in my bones" that would be the death of the polygraph.

You haven't responded to an important question. That is what percentage accuracy you would put on detecting countermeasures; 50, 70, 80, 90 %? Surely you wouldn't say 100%. If you say 80% or above, wouldn't that make the info on this site useless?

If I have missed responding to anything, please call me on it.


Twoblock,

Thank you for responding.  I much prefer debating you over the mindless likes of EosJupiter and others of his caliber.

I guess I should get right to your question.  My answer is I truly don't know the percentage of success in detecting countermeasures.  I am not sure how anyone would know.  I am willing to admit it is probably not 100%.  I do believe very strongly based on my personal experience that we catch a large percentage, even the vast majority.  Truth is though, I really don't know...:(

So I guess that based on a motivational standpoint, this reality probably serves to separate our population back into two groups.  The guilty will probably feel they have nothing to lose by attempting countermeasures...

The innocent will wonder if they should "throw the dice."

I would advise them not to.

'nough said...

Nonombre

 

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