I vehemently oppose the polygraph and I am willing to teach anyone, even tell the world, how to beat it.

Wish I was out of the country!! 
                   

Well the lawyer finally called after 2.5 years.  Said they like to have my hearing in June.   But it will cost another 7 grand...  I told him I'm going to cut my loses and go no further.  I like how I started to say I was going to pull the plug and he came down to 5 grand.  LOL....And he mentioned applying for an appeal after the hearing....I was like...Ya that's a waste of money.   So after a weekend of thinking I'm just going to have him write me a paragraph or more of how to explain my denial on any future application.  I mean he told me we were fucked months ago and it's mitigation/damage control now....basically showing I'm still a nice person and I don't do anything that I was denied for.   Well it's been over 5 years at this point.  My only issue is that once I'm denied is it from that point I can't apply to any 3 letter place for a year???  Is it from that time I have to wait 5 years??  When I was denied a clearance I thought it was the end of the world and my money making power.  But that's not the case.  Ya you can make more money with a clearance...but it's not necessary and not the end of the world. 

In just about all cases, visitors need to have a visitor's request in from someone that works at CIA, but they can get in with another agency's clearance.

A clearance from another agency don't get you into Langley for a visit anyway.

A clearance from another agency won't admit you to Langley in any case

I expect never to apply ever again for any clearance job with the Agency blacklist on you...even DoD or some other 3 letter agency.  Or even better...move out of the hypocritical DC area and start over.

I wonder how long other polygraph victims of the CIA had to wait on their appeals lately.

You will not win your CIA appeal, stop waiting and move on.

if it was the NSA...he said NO WAY....But because the CIA deals with people OK

So yes, you can still get another security clearance. The CIA is in a world of their own.  They don't even use the online e-Qip f

I expect never to apply ever again for any clearance job with the Agency blacklist on you...even DoD or some other 3 letter agency.  Or even better...move out of the hypocritical DC area and start over.

2 to 3 more months and it will have been 3 years since my clearance denial and appeal. The CIA not only wrongfully accused me of wrongdoing for which I am innocent, but they violated my security clearance due process rights of right to a reasonable timely process. I don't expect to hear back from them at all. The CIA is filled with so much fear of We the people, that they need to resort bullying, unlawful interrogation and violation of due process to feel safe and hide their secrets.

violated my security clearance due process rights of right to a reasonable timely process. I don't expect to hear back from them at all. The CIA is filled with so much fear of W

What a revoltin' development this is!"

wonder what would happen if, attached to the appeal, were a polygraph report, with charts from a qualified and recognized polygrapher, disputing the previous results?

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Have you tried writing your Congressman ?

I wonder if it's really worth all the treasure and time

The security clearance process contains several steps, check Wikipedia for details, but the order of those steps may vary.  It will not start until you get a job offer, or a conditional job offer of employment
(COE).  Most government agencies like the CIA will first give you an interview with your prospective office and then issue a COE if the office likes you.  Then the security folks will step in and the polygraph is first, along with psych, medical, and drug testing, all over a 3 day period.  If you fail the poly, they don't even bother with the rest of the security clearance process.  You are rejected right there, COE rescinded, game over.  It is cheaper to polygraph applicants than to run the top secret background check. I hear the NSA may do the poly and background check concurrently.

If you apply for another job that requires a clearance, one of two things may happen.  They may have you fill out a pre-clearance survey as part of your initial job application to assure them you can get a clearance.  That survey may include a question like "have you ever had a security clearance/access revoked, suspended, or denied"?  You are to answer truthfully, and when you answer "yes", they will toss your application in the garbage.  No chance to explain yourself.  They want a candidate with no issues so they don't waste time and money on trying to clear someone who may not get cleared.

Or, they may interview you and hire you and make you sign a form that says you must get a security clearance within the first year on the job or your employment can be terminated.  So if you get hired, and you never get your clearance, and the security folks see that Incident Report (IR) from OGA in your file, they will ask you "What is taking so long? Is there something you wish to tell us about this IR".  After you explain yourself and the company/agency gets tired of waiting on your clearance to be adjudicated after a year, you are fired.  But at least you got a paycheck for a year!

An IR in your clearance file, whether from a failed polygraph or an arrest, when you are not currently employed with a job that needs a clearance, is a big red flag.  You are in a tough situation.  The IR cannot be adjudicated until some company/agency sponsors you for a job-needed clearance.  However, the catch is that not many companies/agencies want to waste money on sponsoring a prospective employee for a clearance who has an IR in his/her file because the company/agency does not know how severe that IR is or how long it will take to resolve!  You are now a reject in the national security community.  You are a red-headed-bastard-gay-stepchild that nobody wants.

You'll just have to seek and find one of the select few agencies/companies who will hire you and sponsor you for a clearance, despite the IR that the CIA put in your file because of the stupid polygraph.