I think the examiner would have said the same
regardless of the poly results in order to elicit
additional information

Lying and Government Agencies tend to go hand in
hand at times...don't you think?   

I'm sure you can think of some things that have
occured where certain agencies have been less
than forthcoming to the public...

"Next, the test came.  I wish I knew about this 
site before the test!  Anyways, the investigator
said the results said I was lying and it would be
better for me to tell him the truth."   

"I maintained I had done nothing wrong and had told the truth throughout."

"FYI...I did lie on the poly about the drug thing.
I had smoked pot once after I had recieved my
clearance...I was young and stupid at the time.
Since I had my clearance on a waiver to begin with
it would have definitely put me out on the street."

[color=Red][/color]So, the examiner made a correct call.  You were a liar!  Another successful case for polygraph.  In hindsight, you should have been prosecuted for making False Official Statements under Title 18, Section 1001.  It appears that you have not changed your ways based on the above statements.  NSA is better without you.

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I kept my cool because I had no other choice, this
was basically a life/death situation for me (at 
the time).  The fear of losing my clearance was
greater than my fear of the polygraph or the 
examiner.

FYI...I did lie on the poly about the drug thing.
I had smoked pot once after I had recieved my
clearance...I was young and stupid at the time.
Since I had my clearance on a waiver to begin with
it would have definitely put me out on the street.




Last modification: ExNSA - 03/23/01 at 19:11:46

Nate,

You "failed" the polygraph because you were 100% honnest and spilled your guts. Same happened to me. It just seems to be the way it works too many times.

You sound like a really strong individual.  I've taken 3 polygraphs.  The first one I passed, the second I had a false positive and the third I passed.  On the second one that I failed the examiner never told me I failed, even when I asked him he just said, "I don't know, I just print out the results and send them to the police department".  I spilled my guts and was 100% honest and to this day I wonder what I would have done if he would have went through the "interrogation" part of the polygraph exam like he was suppose too.  I don't know if I could have kept my cool like you but I would like to think that I could have intellectually beat him in an argument...who knows.

My first poly experience was from what my ex-wife
told about me when the investigators were doing
my SBI renewal for my TS/SCI clearance.

It was a messy divorce and she really wanted to
hurt me bad...so she said I was a drug addict,
had affairs and was an alcoholic.

The investigator initally was very nice and 
bragged that he had been doing polygraphs for 20
years and had 'written the book' on conducting
examinations.  We went through the trial run where
he posted numbers on the wall and I was to answer 
no to every number to calibrate his instruments.

Next, the test came.  I wish I knew about this 
site before the test!  Anyways, the investigator
said the results said I was lying and it would be
better for me to tell him the truth.  

I was calm through the whole ordeal and didn't
lose my temper, but it was a mental game
that he was very good at.  I maintained I had done
nothing wrong and had told the truth 
throughout.  I finally left with the investigator
still apparently believing I was lying.  When I
left I shook his hand and thanked him for his 
time ... I was sure I was going to lose my 
clearance (hence lose my job as well).  It seemed 
he was really suprised that I thanked him...that
sort of shook him.

It turned out he was bluffing and was trying to 
scare an admission out of me.  He was good, he 
played the whole gamut of ploys from friend/buddy
to yelling and hammering fist on table.  He said
I would go to jail for lying on a polygraph and
who knows what else I've done and am lying about.

The whole point to this is, stick to your
innocence regardless of what is said or done to
you by the examiner.  I retired several years 
later with no interuption in clearance.





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