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Topic Summary - Displaying 25 post(s).
Posted by: George W. Maschke
Posted on: Jul 13th, 2021 at 5:48am
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I have a spinal cord injury and have been on disability for 14 years due to the damage it has caused to my spinal cord and my central nervous system I have two medical Spinal cord stimulators implanted in my back that connects to my spinal cord. Am I a good candidate for a polygraph test or would my medical condition prevent me from getting accurate results?


Your spinal cord injury is unlikely to prevent you from getting accurate results, but polygraphy's complete lack of scientific underpinnings might well.
Posted by: KK
Posted on: Jul 12th, 2021 at 10:05pm
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I have a spinal cord injury and have been on disability for 14 years due to the damage it has caused to my spinal cord and my central nervous system I have two medical Spinal cord stimulators implanted in my back that connects to my spinal cord. Am I a good candidate for a polygraph test or would my medical condition prevent me from getting accurate results?
Posted by: George W. Maschke
Posted on: Apr 18th, 2021 at 2:37am
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Would I be eligible to be exempt from the polygraph if my primary care provider states that I have Panic Attack Disorder, GAD, recently recovered from a Pulmonary Embolism, Bipolar Disorder, Major depressive disorder and PTSD?


No.
Posted by: Exempt??
Posted on: Apr 17th, 2021 at 10:52pm
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Would I be eligible to be exempt from the polygraph if my primary care provider states that I have Panic Attack Disorder, GAD, recently recovered from a Pulmonary Embolism, Bipolar Disorder, Major depressive disorder and PTSD?
Posted by: George W. Maschke
Posted on: Aug 21st, 2020 at 4:00am
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I have had a polygraph 2x this week and both are inconclusive. I do have borderline personality which means i have emotional extremes to loss abandonment and rejection.  Is this why its coming back inconclusive.  I am on no meds.  I dont drink or do drugs.  They say they havent had this before.  Are they just a company that takes money with no results?  I went in voluntarily to prove what happened and isnt giving me answers.


Linda,

The fact that you took the polygraph twice and both times the result was inconclusive does not mean that there is anything wrong with you. The problem is that polygraphy is junk science.

A polygraph "test" cannot prove what did or didn't happen.
Posted by: LINDA
Posted on: Aug 20th, 2020 at 11:23pm
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I have had a polygraph 2x this week and both are inconclusive. I do have borderline personality which means i have emotional extremes to loss abandonment and rejection.  Is this why its coming back inconclusive.  I am on no meds.  I dont drink or do drugs.  They say they havent had this before.  Are they just a company that takes money with no results?  I went in voluntarily to prove what happened and isnt giving me answers.
Posted by: quickfix
Posted on: Oct 25th, 2019 at 6:21pm
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So, John M. is now a polygraph expert?  I guess when you fail 5 polygraphs in 3 years and get your access pulled, you become an expert...at failure.
Posted by: John M.
Posted on: Oct 24th, 2019 at 8:59pm
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So now polygraph examiners are psychologists and psychiatrists too?

The part of the regulation he's referring to is part of the "pretest phase", where they collect basic data, inform you of your rights, and lie right to your face.

Actually, DoDI 5210.91 Enclosure 3, 2. l. Directs the DoD Components that are authorized to conduct PCA examinations to write internal "Policies and procedures to assess and determine whether an individual is medically, psychologically, and emotionally fit to undergo an examination".

The regulation also states in Enclosure 4, 2. h. that those Components must have written procedures that "Exempt or postpone examinations when individuals are considered medically, psychologically, or emotionally unfit to undergo an examination".
Posted by: quickfix
Posted on: Oct 24th, 2019 at 6:38pm
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DOD Instruction 5210.91, Encl 4, para a(2):   "Interview the examinee, collect basic data, and assess the examinee’s suitability and condition to undergo an examination."

Translation:  The polygraph examiner must determine whether or not a person is physically and mentally suitable for testing.  If they determine the person should obtain a doctor's note attesting to the suitability of the person to be tested, they would tell the person and postpone testing until a note is obtained.
Posted by: Daytrading
Posted on: Oct 24th, 2019 at 2:01pm
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@ quickfix

Is it possible to quote a policy from the feds or guidelines regarding the ptsd?
Posted by: John M.
Posted on: Apr 23rd, 2019 at 1:47pm
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I would recommend getting a doctor's note. I seriously doubt that they will honor it though. This happened to me. Even though there are approved regulations that prohibit polygraphing and interrogating individuals with mental, emotional or psychological disabilities, they still do it. No one will - or is able - to hold them accountable. Yet.

#StopPolygraphAbuse
Posted by: Austin Lee Mahoney
Posted on: Apr 22nd, 2019 at 10:57pm
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I have severe epilepsy, I average 6-10 seizures a week an take a ton of medications. I have an upcoming poly. I have failed several an I'm told it's due to the epilepsy. Is this true! Should I consult my doctor for a release!
Posted by: George W. Maschke
Posted on: Apr 22nd, 2019 at 3:13pm
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Austin,

Note that polygraphic lie detection doesn't work, whether or not one has epilepsy. It's a pseudoscience devised primarily by interrogators who had little understanding of the scientific method. Any number of factors unrelated to lying could account for your having failed the polygraph.

Who tells you that your failing the polygraph is due to your epilepsy?

And why are you taking repeated polygraphs? For example, is it associated with your job, or are you perhaps in a mandatory post-conviction polygraph screening program?
Posted by: Austin Lee Mahoney
Posted on: Apr 22nd, 2019 at 2:50pm
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I have severe epilepsy, I average 6-10 seizures a week an take a ton of medications. I have an upcoming poly. I have failed several an I'm told it's due to the epilepsy. Is this true! Should I consult my doctor for a release!
Posted by: John M.
Posted on: Mar 18th, 2019 at 2:51pm
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diann, please see Mr. Mangan's last post above.

It's unconscionably abusive to use polygraph "results" by themselves to punish an otherwise innocent individual.   

Subjecting an individual with emotional, psychological or mental disabilities to the stressors associated with repeated polygraph interrogations is irresponsible.
Posted by: diann
Posted on: Mar 16th, 2019 at 7:52pm
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My brother is suffering from Tardidysconesia and has failed two polygraphs because of his nervous condition.  He is on lifetime probation, has given the Polygrapher the infor, as well as the Probation Dept. the Drs. evaluation.  The PO stated he didn't have to take on, however, has scheduled him in a few weeks.
They have continued to harass him and have subjected him to strict curfews..cannot even walk his dog due to him not passing the Polygraphs.  Have you heard of this condition causing this issue. Thank you Cry
Posted by: Administrator
Posted on: May 24th, 2018 at 5:21pm
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Posted by: Dan Mangan
Posted on: Apr 3rd, 2018 at 12:25am
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Jean,

I am a polygraph examiner and a full member of the American Polygraph Association.

Now, to answer your question -- "Can cardiovascular disease cause problems with polygraph results?" -- let me be clear.

In my professional opinion, yes.

But that's beside the larger point.

Scientifically speaking, the "test" is a farce. Learn more here...

https://www.csicop.org/si/show/the_lie_detector_test_revisited_a_great_example_o...

http://www.apa.org/research/action/polygraph.aspx

https://antipolygraph.org/articles/article-053.shtml

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/lie-detectors-dont-work-advertised-and...

I implore you to review the information found in the above links most carefully.

If, after that, you have any questions whatsoever, please call me directly at 603-801-5179 between 9AM and 9PM Eastern Time.

Dan Mangan
Posted by: Jean DeMars
Posted on: Apr 3rd, 2018 at 12:02am
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Does a person took a polygraph shortly after having a widow maker heart attack and ended as being inconclusive. Can cardiovascular disease cause problems with polygraph results ?
Posted by: George W. Maschke
Posted on: Jul 5th, 2017 at 4:38am
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speakup wrote on Jul 4th, 2017 at 4:03pm:
If the polygraph examiner suggests to the individual requesting the poly that the person taking the poly appears to be suicidal, is considered unethical to proceed with the exam? How accurate are the results if the examiner chooses to proceed with the exam? 


Polygraph "testing" is inherently unethical: it's a pseudoscientific fraud that depends on the polygraph operator lying to and deceiving the person being "tested." Regarding the accuracy of results, polygraphy has not been proven to  operate at better-than-chance levels under field conditions. See The Lie Behind the Lie Detector for a thorough debunking of polygraphy:

https://antipolygraph.org/lie-behind-the-lie-detector.pdf
Posted by: speakup
Posted on: Jul 4th, 2017 at 4:03pm
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If the polygraph examiner suggests to the individual requesting the poly that the person taking the poly appears to be suicidal, is considered unethical to proceed with the exam? How accurate are the results if the examiner chooses to proceed with the exam?
Posted by: George W. Maschke
Posted on: Apr 13th, 2017 at 7:43am
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My bf has benign essential tremors, his meds are mirapex and cogent in.his tremors are in his arms and hands, rarely his lower extremities and usually only if he has been off his meds for extended days. What's the probability on an accurate test.


Polygraph "testing" has never been shown to reliably work at better-than-chance levels under field conditions on persons who have no serious medical condition, let alone those who do. In fact, polygraphy has no scientific basis at all.
Posted by: jmf
Posted on: Apr 13th, 2017 at 6:21am
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My bf has benign essential tremors, his meds are mirapex and cogent in.his tremors are in his arms and hands, rarely his lower extremities and usually only if he has been off his meds for extended days. What's the probability on an accurate test.
Posted by: xenonman
Posted on: Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:28am
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I was just talking to a friend and telling her about a show I watched showing people taking polygraph tests and how crazy it was. It's called Steve Wilkos and it's actually pretty good. Anyway, we began talking about spouses testing each other and she brought up that she didn't think my husband would be able to have me tested due to my medical conditions. I didn't think it would make a difference. So, after going back and forth, I agreed to look into it.



For what reason do you feel compelled to undergo the agony of being polygraphed?   Huh
Posted by: xenonman
Posted on: Feb 12th, 2017 at 5:25am
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Hi all

Anyone have experience going for a polygraph at Ministry Of Manpower 

Kenny



Of what nation?  Canada?  UK?   Huh
 
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