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Hello, I was wondering if you passed your BP polygraph test. I hope so, thanks.   

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Crystal,

I just took my medical last week for CBP officer, all i had was a medical with hearing and vision test, no PFT-1
Some locations do the medical and PFT 1 on the same day, not here in Detroit.  Just received an email to schedule my PFT 1 from CHS yesterday.Quote:

Wandersmann wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 8:58pm:


It is in that precisely kind of environment that "quickfixes" and their colleagues fluorish. 

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A physical exam is usually part of the application process.  

I don't know what, if any, psychometric test instruments are used by CBP.

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I am schedule to have my Medical Exam on 04/17/17 for Customs and Border Protection. I was wondering if when i go do the medical exam is just medical. Or will they have a Physical Part(fitness) in the Medical Exam.

Wandersmann wrote on Feb 26^th, 2017 at 8:58pm:


Yes, I'm familiar with the Chris Boyce/Dalton Lee scandal.  Chris, the "idealist", had an FBI father and his accomplice Dalton Lee was  a useless, but well-connected, cokehead.  To help save his rear end, the opportunistic Boyce told the Congressional investigators whatever he thought they would want to hear.
This is remarkably similar to the conduct of the notorious sexual predator/mass murderer, Ted Bundy.  In 1989, hoping to save himself from execution, Bundy began to make statements attributing his behavior to the  availability of pornography. Fortunately, his cynical, opportunistic behavior failed to save his life.

xenonman wrote on Feb 25^th, 2017 at 10:44pm:


I recently watched on YouTube the 1985 testimony of traitor Christopher Boyce pertaining to his service to the Soviet Union.  His first portion of testimony dealt with the fact that he never should have been hired.  He highlighted his background investigation that was a superficial joke.  He was a counter-culture druggie and the background investigation only included interviews of his retired FBI Agent father's friends.  Therein lies the problem.  It all comes down to the BI.  I think there is more nepotism, favoritism, PC, and "old boy", now sometimes "old girl" networking, than ever before.  People are getting selected for positions for all of the wrong reasons and no one in authority has the guts to address this issue head on.  The Government slugs in personnel are more interested in making sure their paperwork looks good than in really addressing quality in our workforce.  

The next part of Boyce's testimony was enraging.  This traitor POS starting lecturing Senators Cohen (former Clinton Secretary of Defense), Gore (former VP), Nunn (Rep-GA) and other committee members on how he would have never applied for the job if he was given a polygraph exam.  He lectured these stooges on why we need to polygraph everybody.  It appears that these lackluster politicians chose to follow the advice of a traitor rather than really digging into a careful analysis of the problem by listening to what he was saying.  I wonder how much this singular testimony by a despicable traitor played into our current polygraph policy?

honestabe wrote on Jul 8^th, 2011 at 4:51pm:



I have often believed that a "loyalty oath" could serve the same purpose as the polygraph and/or BI.

If an employee then engages in espionage (for whatever reason), s/he could be prosecuted for perjury as well as for secrecy/national security violations. 

Wandersmann wrote on Jul 7^th, 2015 at 5:45pm:


Relaxation as a countermeasure?  LOL. 

BTW, I'm a victim of exactly the same bad joke as you, Wandersmann!

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For CBP, I really don't know.  For any federal intelligence agency, I'd say to forget about re-applying until you turn 120.  lol 

quickfix wrote on Dec 7^th, 2011 at 7:45pm:


You seem to have done all right for yourself, Quickfix, and yet you don't appear to be capable of accomplishing very much except to threaten and disparage those who have the temerity to question the accuracy of your brilliant analyses.

Well the best thing to do is tell the Agent you did drugs and he will see you are lying and he cant fail you than:) 

You got educated and stayed good for the system, cool guy. But you lack the common sense to figure out that every single one of you has taken some type of drug in your life, because the biggest drug pusher on the planet is the Pharmaceutical Cartel... and they start you out real young injecting that needle full of vaccines.

If I failed and reapplied 3 years later what are the odds of me getting hired?  If I pass the poly would my last failed exam hurt my chances?

It's very simple 
The group that PAYS for the polygraph 
gets the results that they want 
especially if the result that the payer wants 
is a FAILED examination 
It's that simple 
These exams are purely subjective !!!
The " science " is in the lie pushed by the exam giver !!!

I'd like to know why the hell why the waiting period to retake the CBP test is so long.   >:(

Wandersmann wrote on Jul 7^th, 2015 at 11:50pm:


To a large extent, I agree. That is precisely why a key plank in my platform for president-elect of the American Polygraph Association is a bill of rights for potential examinees that would duly inform them of the risks, realities and limitations of the "test" well in advance of their scheduled date with the liebox and its operator.

Evan S wrote on Jul 7^th, 2015 at 7:31pm:



Good point !  No, I never signed, wrote, or dictated anything after the test.  I was a government contractor.  I strenuously maintained my innocence and was told if I didn't confess, I would be terminated.  I never did confess and was eventually terminated 5 months later after I accomplished my tasks.  They let me finish but then said I could never come back on another contract.  If I was a threat to security, weren't they culpable to allow me to stay ?  Their adjudication is capricious.  They can do whatever they want.  As I was walked out of the office, I continued to protest my innocence  and the polygraph examiner told me not to worry, no adverse action would be taken against me.  He said something to the effect of, "don't worry, you don't need to pass the polygraph to stay on your contract".  He lied.  I find it ironic that these "truth finders" are the biggest God damned liars that ever walked the face of the earth.

Wandersmann...were you asked to fill out a written statement and sign it?  Perhaps the polygrapher, under pressure to fail 60% of the applicants, exaggerated your minor confession (trying to relax) into a significant admission.  You must not sign if you do not agree.  You are under no obligation to appease the polygrapher.

Evan S

forgetthebollocks wrote on Mar 26^th, 2015 at 5:22pm:


I told a polygraph examiner that I was trying to relax and he stated in his report that I admitted to using countermeasures.  What a joke this polygraph is.  A joke that costs innocent people their careers.

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So , did you get the job..? How was your experience with the polygraph test ?

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Ok, so what's your rap sheet consist of? Be honest now. No one here can be wearing a halo. The thing that seems to be going on with the hiring process is....if you have no experience in life what so ever and have lived life, basically under  a rock, then that makes you a potential candidate/? I would think that those who are well seasoned in life's ups and downs, having experiences with the good and bad and learning from them and being able to differentiate good ethics from bad, would be more desirable by departments. When I failed and I responded back to this "IA" investigator, I asked if they were looking for robots? I asked who is to say that anyone applicant that "supposedly" has never been tainted by mistakes, will not decide later, after being hired and well established in the job, that he or she will not decide to push the envelope to see what they can get a way with.

I just passed my polygraph last monday 06/09/14. I thought it was pretty easy. Yes at first i was a little nervous because i didnt know what to expect. After a few question i got my confidence and was more relax. To pass a polygraph just be honest and relax when your answering the questions. Do not worry about what the examiner says that you are not passing. Just say the truth and try the best to be relaxed. Good luck to you all. I am just waiting for my PFT2 and drug test which should be 30-60 days before EOD.

Doug,

You are correct. I spend at least 8 hours a day fighting Washington. So much so that my emails have been blocked. Not by just Democrats either. One of my own Senators, John Cornyn, the RNSC and the RNC blocked me.  People like Cruz and Paul have NOT blocked me.

Years ago, by hard copy letters, I tried to get someone in Congress (both houses) to introduce a bill that required members to pass a polygraph in order to inter Congress and for the incumbents to remain there. I didn't get ONE response to the letters. I can understand that because they only pay attention to large numbers. I could not get enough people writing. There's the problem. The only way I get my messages across now are through petitions and they do read some of them evidenced by recent replies even though the responses were pure political rhetoric and lies.

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I am constantly amazed at the way the American people have devolved into sheep being led to the slaughter.  When they are abused by the heavy handed government thugs from the Orwellian Ministry of Truth - aka polygraph operators - they whine about it and wonder if there is any way to "appeal".  To Hell with an "appeal"!  The government works for you!  If you will remind them of that by demanding that your representatives stop this bullshit or you will kick them out of office, then something will be done to end the abuse that has "devastated" your son.  But until you fight back, they will continue to kick you in the balls and laugh when you groan in pain and wonder if there is "any recourse"!