Well, at least when Gary is pitching his DVSA, against Charlie's CVSA, Gary can say his competitor is in the process of liquidation bankruptcy and probably will not be able to offer support and recertification training.  Anyhow, if I was in Gary's shoes, that is exactly what I would be doing.
Also, if I was Gary, I would be trying to press bankruptcy fraud.  Like I have said, I am no attorney, heck, I am not even a fake Ph.D, but it appears to me Charlie is trying to mix and match Chapter 7 and Chapter 11 bankruptcies.   
Gary, if you are reading this, or if you are one of Gary's attorneys, please weigh in.

On 28 September 2021, Judge Ashley Zuckerman stayed Baker's case against NITV LLC pending resolution of NITV LLC's bankruptcy case.

I did not get a chance yesterday to see the case management meeting concerning the bankruptcy/failure of NITV LLC.
Any news, or did it somehow get postponed like so many of the past legal actions?
It would be interesting to have a legal analysis of how Charlie can use the Chapter 7 liquidation bankruptcy like a Chapter 11 BK to keep operating his CVSA business while also selecting what creditors to pay and which ones to stiff.

This will be interesting.  Charlie will likely be put under oath which will be interesting for an individual with his history of hubris.  A few things that pop out to me, and I just received a Google education on the Case Management Conference, or 341, is firstly, the presumption of fraud factor.  It appears to me that the recent purchase of a 1.6 million dollar home would definitely raise the eyebrows of the law firms and his business foe faux doc Gary Baker.  Also, as I have mentioned on an earlier post, my lay eye picked up the contemptuous exchange factor.  It appears that Charlie is up to date on paying the firm that wrote the mean letter to AP in June, 2019, but is trying to shaft at least two other law firms.
Personally, I would not be surprised if any of Charlie's creditors bring up the shifting of assets between like sounding LLCs.  A government bureaucrat contracting with NITV LLC, or NITV Federal Services may not pick up on the subtle difference in name, but a decent lawyer will latch on that in a heartbeat. 
Who knows what will be dug up in this hearing or future discovery if this petition continues.  I know this is antidotal, but in my work experience, two of my former employers classified most of their workers as independent contractors, like Charlie does with his instructors.  Long story short, this eventually blew up in my former employers' faces with multiple government agencies, and especially the IRS whipping their asses with huge sanctions.  Throw in Charlie receiving PPP funds and who knows what may happen.  Discovery can really suck for those not on the up and up.
I cannot imagine creditors owed hundreds of thousand of dollars walking away from Charlie.  But on the other hand, I was also surprised by someone whom calls himself Dr. based on a strip mall diploma, and also refers to himself as a renaissance man admitting business failure.

A "Case Management Conference" is set for Tuesday, 28 September 2021 at 11:30 AM before Judge Ashley Zuckerman.

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I am hoping that no news is good news on this litigation.  Hopefully, Charlie is ringing up substantial legal debt at three figures per hour every weekday, and that the billable hours will keep piling up so when Gary eventually wins, there will be nothing left to win, just like there wasn't when Charlie "won" against Arthur and Dektor.
It appears that the headquarters of NITV at 11400 Fortune Circle is owned by a LLC, Landview Management, that is controlled by Charlie's wife. So, Gary may have a nice building, albeit with multiple liens.
It will be interesting to see Charlie try to play the part of a successful entrepreneur to his gullible clients, and concurrently play the part of a financially broken and failed businessman to the courts.
So, let us hope that Charlie and Gary will cross each other out like a middle school algebra problem and with them the pseudoscience of VSA.

Couple of questions:  Will this case be going to trial after Gary's lawyers look over the records, the QuickBooks sales and data records and client list are examined?  Also, is the CPA, Kevin Foytek, originally retained by NITV?  If so, has, or will Foytek be disposed by Gary's lawyers?

After further reading the attachments, I have learned that many of Charlie's employees, specifically the instructors, are independent contractors.  Many businesses use independent contractors as regular employees to avoid withholding taxes and social security payments, which is a real no-no and can land one in hot water with the IRS.  Which brings up another question, did Charlie use PPP funds for these independent contractors?
Gary's lawyers appear to be walking a thin line.  They probably have enough on Charlie to force him out of business or at least into bankruptcy, but that would put Gary, near the back of the line for any funds after liquidation of NITV.  Also, are Gary's lawyers mandated reporters for any illegal acts they will find on NITV?

I'm getting a little off topic, but I find the psychological makeup of Charlie pretty interesting and how this psychological makeup is leading to Charlie's apparent downfall.
First off, let's examine his need to humiliate the Dektor, a minor player in the bogus VSA game that was so small time that the proprietor had to go pro se.  As I mentioned before, Charlie "won" the lawsuit but this "victory" resulted in what appears to be a permanent, and seemingly accurate mirrored website that points out such factors as his fake doctorate, fake "scientific" study and all sorts of embarrassing tidbits.  Also, threatening the web consultant was way overboard. This legal victory probably resulted in Charlie spending way more in legal fees than any business he may have lost to Dektor.
Now, let us look at the ongoing litigation between Gary and Charlie.  From what information I could find online, Gary was also a small time player in the VSA charade.  The sources I found said Gary made between $25,000 to maybe $40,000 a year, and some years Gary didn't even bother to file a tax return.  Strictly small potatoes.   
The point I am trying to make is if Charlie would have swallowed his immense ego, and settled with Gary several years ago, he could have saved himself from his probable business ruin.  I bet Charlie could have settled with Gary for around the $25,000 mark, which is a chunk of change for someone used to making that kind of money per annum. 
But, Charlie can never admit to being wrong and I believe he clearly thinks he has the kind of IQ that a doctorate holder possesses.  Now, Charlie's CVSA clearly failed in the Michael Crowe case to be point he had to settle with the Crowe family.  Even though his LLC said in court that the CVSA cannot determine truth, Charlie still doubled down on his BS.  Also, although the CVSA was wrong on the case of the probation officer that was falsely accused in court, Charlie still said his machine was right and the PO was lying.
I think, like most BS artists, that Charlie thought he could BS, anyone, which backfired during that infamous Brian Ross interview.  Charlie tried to wow Mr. Ross by flying into work in a helicopter and having a Ph.D. prominently displayed on his office wall.  Don't need to rehash hear, but Charlie came across as a two bit conman. 
Charlie's lack of intellectual horsepower to go further than the Associate's degree level is clearly embarrassing to him, to the point he had to get a strip mall doctorate.   
Charlie's façade is crumbling and he is in full blown panic mode.  Charlie does not like anyone chipping away at his façade as also evidenced by the threat letter to AP in 2019.
Now, what gives me the right to make a psychological assessment on Charlie?  I would answer that my years of interviewing probationers and parolees and submitting written reports to the courts and court room testimony under oath.
What give's Charlie the right to claim to hold a Ph.D.?  Not a damn thing. 

Today's hearing did not go well for NITV/NITV Federal Services. The judge overruled most of NITV Federal Services' objections, and as a result, it will be required to turn over:

• Its "accounting/QuickBooks data files" for the years 2005-2018
• A client list with customers numbered 1-2703
• A "QuickBooks Sales By Customer Summary"

These records formed the basis for a declaration by Certified Public Accountant Kevin Foytek submitted by NITV Federal Services in its federal litigation against Dektor Corp. and Arthur Herring III.

The contents of these files are not likely to become public, however, as counsel for E. Gary Baker agreed to an "attorneys eyes only" protective order.

Again, thanks for the excellent job you do keeping this information about this on-going litigation supplied on a timely basis.  Most everyone I have read on this thread figured out that Charlie & Co. would be engaging in hiding assets and if opposing counsel keeps digging, I betcha they will find two sets of books aside from the multiple LLCs.  Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if criminal charges eventually arise and maybe even a RICO action.
Charlie really screwed himself by flaunting a "highly successful renaissance man lifestyle" while having at least one helicopter, collector guitars, expensive photography equipment, etc.  But now he is claiming to be broke.
I've seen so many Charlie like characters in my life generally, and specifically in my criminal justice career.  Basically, Charlie is a one trick pony.  He can bullshit, and I will give credit where credit is due,  exceptionally well.  However, he apparently cannot reason abstractly, a faith that eventually befalls most bullshit artists.  Which means the gig will end eventually.
The number one danger to criminals for instance, is other criminals.  AP has done an exceptionally job exposing the lie industry charlatans, but the lie industry derail each other better than us people whom seek honesty in the CJ system could ever do.  I believe that the fake Ukraine study NITV promotes was debunked by APA, and Gary appears to be putting a major ass whuppin' on Charlie & Co.   Even if Charlie wins, he will still be out of a heap of money from having to pay his attorneys.  Mr. Fleck appears to be good at hiding, but he will reappear when his payday arrives.
Back when I was a newly minted PO, I got very upset on a case I prepared went south at trial.  A more experienced PO told me that not to worry, that the "street" will take care of that criminal.  Interesting that we see another charlatan taking out Charlie.

A 30-page Pretrial Stipulation filed on 27 July 2021 lays out the issues that are to be argued and decided at trial in this case. This document is attached to this post.

The key point that appears to be at issue is whether NITV, LLC., against which the judgment in this case was originally issued, fraudulently transferred assets to avoid paying the judgment debt, and whether Charles Humble, his wife, Lourdes Irimia, and NITV Federal Services are liable for that.

A "Hearing on Defendants' Objections to Request for Production" is set for Tuesday, 3 August 20201 at 8:30 AM before Judge Ashley Zuckerman. 

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Thank you and your kind reader for the PDF.  Well, it looks like the war between the foe faux docs will be on-going.  Good.   
Charlie is really a piece of work claiming that Gary is too aggressive and greedy, especially after Charlie threatened to destroy the livelihood of Matt Vanderhoff, an IT consultant that wrote some software for Dektor, as well as threatened "sanctions" against AP.  Karma does exist at least in Charlie's case.  Really, Charlie could lose everything, and I would not be surprised to even see his 4th wife (whom appears young enough to be his grand daughter) jump ship.  I have zero mercy for someone that Charlie that has destroyed probably thousands or lives and has dented, or prevented so many criminal justice careers.
I'm thinking that Charlie may realize the gig is up, and he is going down, and wants to take Gary down to Hell with him by continuing to run up litigation expenses.
This comment should probably be in another heading, but one thing I find interesting is that in the VSA side of so-called lie detection, it is the manufacturers that attack each other (CVSA, DVSA, Dektor).  But on the polygraph side, it is the operators that attack each other, for example, the Dr. Phil polygraphists.

A reader kindly sent a PDF version of Marc Freeman's South Florida Sun-Sentinel article, "Which Company Is Telling the Truth: Battle in Lie-Detecting Industry Is Getting Stranger than Fiction," which I have attached to this post.

Thanks for the update.  I read as much of the article by Marc Freeman as I could before getting popped out since it is a pay for view piece.  I could only briefly read parts of the article so please forgive me if I am missing some points.
That said, Mr. Freeman would be well served to study AP for an incredible amount of information on the on-going rumble between Baker and Humble.  Also, the Brian Ross ABC interview of "Dr," Humble, especially the longer version should be viewed by Mr. Freeman.
Here are a few points that need to be further examined:
*  If NITV/Humble cannot pay the judgement against them, they probably need to declare bankruptcy.  Gary's lawyers really need to start leaning on Charlie & Co.  Charlie bragged to Brian Ross that NITV "has had a remarkable level of success."  Really Charlie, don't blame your foe faux doc for your failure to pay a settlement.
*  Charlie and Gary need to show their research on VSAs "work" and furnish some empirical data, not a phony baloney Ukraine published article.  Charlie's attempt to explain his "science" to Brian Ross appeared to have backfired.
*  Just because polygraphs are bogus does not mean VSAs are legit.  The research I have found shows they are both 50/50.  The CVSA given to me was, however, 100% inaccurate.
*   Finally, like the purpose of AP, all forms of polygraphs, VSAs and even e-meters need to be gone now.  A bogus CVSA dented my career, but we have former Afghanistan allies that may be murdered by the Taliban because of various charlatans more interested in making money than the welfare of their fellow humans.
I hope Marc Freeman does a series of articles about the fallacy of so-called lie detection.   

Marc Freeman writes about the ongoing civil litigation between Gary Baker and Charles Humble in an article titled, "Who’s telling the truth? Battle over lie-detecting is stranger than fiction," published in the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. Excerpt:

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Also, when I step back from all the Charlie and Gary drama, I cannot stop thinking how this ongoing legal action would make one heck of a news story.
We got to principals, without principles, preaching the fake gospel of truth and therefore integrity.  But wait, both these actors have fake Ph.D's to dishonestly boast their reputations.  Both Gary and Charlie have even posted on Anti-Polygraph by referring to themselves as doctorate level individuals.  Gary evidently emailed this site personally, whereas Charlie had his lawyer sent a letter to AP and said letter referred to Charlie as Dr. Humble two times.
When Charlie "won" his case against no show pro se Dektor, he immediately gave a short deadline of, if I remember right,  four days for the opposing IT consultant to cough up the software.  Even AP was given a short deadline to "comply."  Although it has been over two years since that infamous cease and desist letter, I am still scratching my head wondering why a presumed competent attorney would send such a dumb ass letter.  Maybe a quick and dirty immediate payoff of a few hundred dollars?   
The Brian Ross Charles Humble interview on YouTube would be a good starting point for a reporter, throw in the Charlie/Gary legal drama, maybe interview some of the bureaucrats that contracted with either Charlie and Gary on why they did not do due diligence on VSA's or at least do some cursory research on Google to see how VSAs and polygraphs are pseudoscience nonsense before wasting thousands of taxpayer dollars and then maybe interview some of us that have been wronged by this pseudoscience.

Not a surprise that the mediation session ended in an impasse.  It appears that Charlie is continuing his strategy of stone walling.  With all of Charlie's LLCs - trying to actually recover the judgement will be like a legal version of whack a mole for Gary's attorneys.  Charlie probably hid some money in his minor son's accounts, maybe some in his wife's so-called real estate company, some in some of his LLC's, who's to say?
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Anthony,

The mediation session held on 20 July ended in impasse.

Upon further reflection, and some on-line research, I now believe the mediation is to agree on a financial settlement.  Reportedly, Gary only makes between $25,000 to $35,000 a year and it true, wants some money in his pocket as soon as possible.   
Now, Charlie could be very rich, or he could be very poor and leading a fake rich lifestyle.  The revenues at NITV have reported been flat for several years at approximately 1.5 million a year so the company could just be treading water.  Also, Charlie is reportedly on his fourth wife and ex-wives can be expensive or so I have been told.  Let alone, Charlie's toys are a major expense as well as frequent lawsuits.  Charlie appears to be a big spender with no financial discipline.   
Basically, I believe the only thing Charlie and Gary can agree on is how much they hate AP since AP is blowing gaping holes into the make believe science of voice stress analysis.

I still maintain that Charlie and his band of pseudo-scientists are playing Gary and his lawyers like weakling fools.  Let me expand.  When Charlie got his "victory" over no-show Dektor, he immediately demanded that no more derogatory information be spread about NITV or Charlie himself.  Dang, he even threatened the IT consultant of Dektor and Anti-Polygraph.   
Also, when Crowe's parents threated to take NITV to court, Charlie settled in a heart beat.  He knew the Crowe family wasn't playing.
I can only imagine the nick names that the Doc Humble liar crew are calling Gary.  One that comes to mind is "Not so scary Gary the fairy."
Granted, I don't have the whole story of this long running litigation, but maybe there is a code of dishonor among faux Ph.Ds.

Anthony R,

My example of an agreed upon amount being placed into an escrow account would not be for the purpose of paying the mediator's fees, but rather of ensuring performance on the judgment debt. Note also that mediation is not the same as binding arbitration.

Yes, I would expect both parties to pay to play.  However, I was under the impression that mediation was in lieu of litigation, not after successful litigation that was in favor of Gary. 
With that said, Charlie, I bet, will still find ways to drag his feet, further increasing legal costs for both parties.  I hope this scenario continues to play out.  So called lie detection should have been banished decades ago, and I would rather the moronic pair of Charlie and Gary continue to bankrupt each other with never ending legal costs than us concerned citizens get further involved with the lie of lie detection.
I kind of believe that Charlie thinks since he did not collect on Dektor that he has the right not to pay out a settlement to Gary.  But in the legal system, that of course does not matter.
I continue to maintain my position that Gary is an idiot to go to binding mitigation when he already has a lawsuit win in his favor, and that Charlie is continuing to hide assets in his many shell organizations.  The biggest idiots are the government bureaucrats that continue to contract with the crooks in the so-called lie detector business.  Haven't these bureaucrats ever heard of a Google search?

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A mediated settlement could, for example, be contingent upon payment of an agreed upon amount to an escrow account.

Perhaps Gary Baker is not very bright even by faux Ph.D. standards.  Let's stop and and do a brief review of this case.  Charlie lost the case to Gary concerning defamation to the tune of $575,000 approximately 10 years ago.  Charlie apparently did not attempt to make restitution to Gary and has appears to be getting away with stonewalling.
Now here is the part I am having a hard part understanding:  If Charlie can ignore to an court order to pay $575,000, what is to keep him from adhering to resolution?  One cannot make an honorable agreement with an un-honorable individual like Charlie. 
I am no where close to being an attorney, but if I was Gary I would start the procedure of seizing Charlie's assets.  Maybe if Gary had a helicopter, kitchenware, photography equipment and guitars he too could be a renaissance man.
On a slightly different point:  Matrix, according to their website, has an option called Black Box where the proceedings are kept hush hush.  Perhaps Gary and Charlie don't want any additional members of the judiciary (game theory?) to see how bogus the whole field of voice stress analysis is.

In the face of NITV's stonewalling in this litigation, E. Gary Baker filed a Motion to Compel on 23 June 2021. With this motion filed and depositions of NITV employees Olga Kane and Carol Graham looming, the parties have agreed to enter mediation talks on Tuesday, 20 July 2021 via Zoom, under the auspices of Matrix Mediation, LLC of West Palm Beach.

Copies of the Motion to Compel and Notice of Mediation are attached.