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Posted by: polytechnic
Posted on: Jun 25th, 2008 at 2:34pm
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TB,

This is a new low - even for a polypoop. DI the guy even b4 he's
been attached. Your guy evidently did the extra 2 day 'Mind- Reading'  
course.

The polygraph industry could have maintained an iota of respect had it acknowledged long ago, that the polygraph is not a scientific instrument and has no pretensions to be so, but is in fact a damn good investigative, interrogation aid and confession solicitor.

Then examiners wouldnt have to pretend to be mind-readers; it wouldn't (should never have) been used for P-E screening; and if it didn't produce a relatively quick confession then the results could be simply discarded (ignored) and everyone would have been much happier.

For well educated and apparently intelligent people to blindly swear by polygraph accuracy to the point of selling their souls - is an ongoing mystery to me. How do you keep on lying to yourself..????
When examiners lie in bed at night, do they ask for forgiveness?
Do they even forgive themselves ?

Posted by: Thomas Becket
Posted on: Jun 24th, 2008 at 12:55am
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I’m slowly working my way into LE.  I decided to apply for a county job that would have made a positive starting point and it required a poly.  I did the interview and after I was done they had me fill out the questionnaire for the Poly.   

Being my first exam, I didn’t feel worried, every one told me to be honest and I felt I had nothing to hide, so I only researched about the test to better understand.  I even looked at this site and avoided it because I felt it was for those who had something to hide.  Now kicking myself, as this would have been the most useful tool.   

I showed up, went through the consent bs…
IT ( the examiner if you will ) went through the pre game explanation.
Then IT reviewed my questionnaire.  I had two things that I thought where going to hurt me and IT did hit one of them, but it was not an issue.   

Then we move into the statement part which I thought was part of procedure before getting strapped in, nope.  I got blindsided on a subject I though was not an issue and because I didn’t think to review the specifics on it, I got kick in the stick.  Hard.

By the time I was done I had written a statement that would have sounded logical had you walked in my shoes.  However, read from another point of view which the examiner twisted, IT made it sound like I had committed a felony in my past.  Which would be a long shot conviction, especially now.   

Told me the employer did not wish to continue, I asked to speak to him so I could clarify.  He asked employer and replied it would be a few min.  While waiting in a lobby, I watched the examiner put his things in his car and leave.  Which further pissed me off because, I was not done.

The employer informed me that he was only told there was a discrepancy that would not allow him to continue and that he would not know the results until the examiner mailed them the report.  I knew I was out as I was never polygraphed.   

Ill post the full story at a latter time.  Now that I have an incriminating statement out there that could hurt my career, what should I do about it?  As it seems to me, It would stay confidential and remain within that specific County office.   

Should I 
A)      File a complaint with the County Office on my experience.
B)       Seek a lawyer to get this fix.
C)      Let the file sit in the mouse fart of an operation and not worry about it resurfacing as it is not a part of what I intend to do in the future.

I’ve picked myself back up, trying to stay positive, and intend to move forward with my intent to seek a career in Law Enforcement.  Also, I will still be honest in the future as I was never polygraph anywhere else because I was never strapped in.   
 
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