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Posted by: xenonman Posted on: Jul 18^th, 2017 at 4:09pm	Mark & Quote Quote
Quote: crappity smack YOU fg*t Are they giving clearances to homosexuals now?

Posted by: Wandersmann Posted on: May 21^st, 2017 at 11:20pm	Mark & Quote Quote
quickfix wrote on May 19^th, 2017 at 5:31pm: Засунь их себе в задницу, ёбаный ублюдок! Hey Quickfix - *Loop Bars !*

Posted by: Ex Member Posted on: May 20^th, 2017 at 2:36am	Mark & Quote Quote
У меня была девушка в Санкт-Петербурге, шепчу что-то похожее мне на ухо! NachoCheese, easy on the jalapeños! Writing a book about countermeasures is one thing, but coaching? I would not even entertain the thought.

Posted by: quickfix Posted on: May 19^th, 2017 at 5:31pm	Mark & Quote Quote
NachoCheese: Засунь их себе в задницу, ёбаный ублюдок!

Posted by: xenonman
Posted on: May 19^th, 2017 at 4:03am

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unsuitable for the Special Agent

By a strange coincidence, the word "unsuitable" was also used to explain the results of my convoluted application process with the Bureau. This I learned from a PA/FOIA request I made.

Note that with respect to my FBI SA application, I was neither polygraphed (as of 1982, the Bureau wasn't automatically giving the polygraph to applicants), nor had a BI ever commenced. Roll Eyes

Posted by: NachoCheese
Posted on: May 18^th, 2017 at 11:48pm

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Hey quickfix, crappity smack YOU f*g**t! I wish the most painful death upon you. I had a great career until I was falsely accused during that agency's poly years ago, which sent my whole clearance situation in a downward spiral from which I never recovered. crappity smack you and crappity smack the polygraph, it doesn't work!

You know what I am going to do, I will join George, Doug Williams, Chad Dixon, and others in teaching people how to pass the poly. Because it can be done, I passed my first FBI poly with ease, knowing damn well I shouldn't have, tbey only rejected me because another agency did when I failed their poly.

And teaching people how to beat the poly is not a crime. George has never been to jail for it and this site has been up for 17 years. The only reason Doug got in trouble is because he taught someone, who happened to be an undercover fed, how to beat it after that person admitted they wanted to conceal a crime. That is the key. George has always said he wants to help innocent people pass. I will have a disclaimer that no one who I teach is allowed to mention any crimes they did or will do or I can't help them. Don't ask don't tell. I will teach others to fool the polygraphers, like I did witb the FBI!

Your profession is going down quickfix, and I can't wait to see you cry like a bitch in despair.

Posted by: xenonman Posted on: May 18^th, 2017 at 12:02pm	Mark & Quote Quote
Quote: I have learned that if you fail the FBI polygraph or the Background Investigation (BI), you That unfortunate situation isn't limited to the FBI either! Yes, you're absolutely correct; the BI can be as inaccurate as the polygraph, and equally deleterious to anyone aspiring to public service!

Posted by: xenonman Posted on: May 18^th, 2017 at 11:24am	Mark & Quote Quote
Quote: I previously failed the poly for another agency and got blacklisted from them as well, I think that I can guess what that other Agency was!

Posted by: xenonman Posted on: May 18^th, 2017 at 11:22am	Mark & Quote Quote
Quote: One failed poly and my career is over. I guess I will use my skills to get a job in Russia, since my country won't take me.... Try info@svr.gov. ru or info@fsb.gov.ru

Posted by: quickfix Posted on: May 17^th, 2017 at 7:57pm	Mark & Quote Quote
Quote: One failed poly and my career is over. What career? You never had one. Quote: I guess I will use my skills to get a job in Russia, since my country won't take me.... Drop us a postcard from Moscow.

Posted by: NachoCheese
Posted on: May 17^th, 2017 at 2:14pm

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I am the same NachoCheese that posted above years ago. I have learned that if you fail the FBI polygraph or the Background Investigation (BI), you are banned for life! I applied to be a Special Agent several years ago, made it through the whole process, Phase 1 and 2, poly, fitness, etc., but got dinged in the final adjudication stage. Fast forward to present day, I am still eligible according to the FBI prescreening requirements, even still under the 37 age limit, but I reapplied and within days I got the email below:

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From: FBIJobsDoNotReply@ic.fbi.gov
Sent: Xday, MonthX, XX, 2017 XX:XX
To: Me
Subject: Special Agent Application - Previosuly Failed Background Investigation

Dear NachoCheese

The FBI previously found you to be unsuitable for the Special Agent position. Our records indicate you were notified of this in writing on XX/XX/20XX. As such, you are ineligible to continue in the Special Agent application process.

Respectfully,
Human Resources Division
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I previously failed the poly for another agency and got blacklisted from them as well, which influenced my original FBI rejection, even though I passed the FBI poly. So that is it. No chance of me ever getting cleared nor getting into Intelligence ever. One failed poly and my career is over. I guess I will use my skills to get a job in Russia, since my country won't take me....

Posted by: xenonman Posted on: May 6^th, 2016 at 2:16pm	Mark & Quote Quote
Quote: I'm agent251 BIA Bureau of Indian Affairs?

Posted by: Stefan Kulpinac Posted on: May 1^st, 2016 at 10:40pm	Mark & Quote Quote
I'm agent251 BIA

Posted by: Stefan Kulpinac Posted on: May 1^st, 2016 at 10:38pm	Mark & Quote Quote
God your in such an idiot

Posted by: xenonman
Posted on: Jul 14^th, 2015 at 7:03pm

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Sounds to me like you didn't get the job because they found someone else that was either more qualified or that made a better impression on them or both.

Think about it; you're competing against many highly qualified applicants for a position that's in very high demand.

The FBI isn't the only gig in town you know. Besides, they didn't say that you couldn't ever apply again or that you were disqualified.

I know it must be disappointing but, don't you have a backup plan? What good fed doesn't have a good backup plan?

Think your way through it and try something else or try again later.

Good luck.

That's one lesson I finally learned, the hard way! Angry

Posted by: xenonman
Posted on: Jul 14^th, 2015 at 7:01pm

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I too have received the dreaded thin letter Suitability denial based on personal conduct. I'm still awaiting my FOIA request so I can get all the details. I actually passed the poly and my BI started, but I don't think it finished. There is something the FBI found out during the BI that drew attention. My position was the Special Agent (SA) position. Is there a way I can appeal a suitability denail? Am I allowed to reapply to be an SA in the future? Stupid FBI.

Not unlike my experience with the stupid CIA! Angry

Posted by: xenonman
Posted on: Jul 14^th, 2015 at 7:00pm

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devastated2today wrote on Apr 16^th, 2008 at 3:44am:

I applied and was granted a conditional job offer with the FBI as an intelligence analyst. I moved through the entire process without any problems. However, on April 15 2008, the FBI sent me notification that it was rescinding the offer. Here is the contents of the letter:
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This is to advise you of the status of your application for a position with the FBI.

Your application was reviewed along with those of other applicants. I regret to inform you that after careful consideration of the requirements for FBI employment, you were not selected. As a result, we must rescind our Conditional Job Offer. In making this decision, we conducted an objective assessment of the information available to us and the needs of our organization. The choice between the many qualified candidates is a difficult one, and I regret that we are unable to offer you a more favorable decision.

Our action to rescind your Conditional Job Offer does not consitute a security denial. On future security applications and forms you may affirm, insofar as it relates to this section, you were not denied a security clearance.

Thank you for your interest in the FBI. We wish you well in your future endeavors. [/size][/i]
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As you can see, the FBI provided no reason for rescinding my application. It alludes to the fact that I wasn't selected out of many applications, but this step was conducted at the beginning of the process. As a result of my selection, I only needed to pass the latter stages which include polygraph test, drug test, and background investigation.

What do you guys think?

It suspiciously resembles one of the boilerplate rejection letters that the CIA uses! Sad

Posted by: NachoCheese Posted on: May 15^th, 2011 at 6:51pm	Mark & Quote Quote
Does anyone know if my FBI rejection, or the fact that I filed an FOIA request and plan to appeal, will affect me getting a job at other government agencies?

Posted by: NachoCheese
Posted on: Apr 18^th, 2011 at 10:27pm

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Posted by: T.M. Cullen
Posted on: Jan 5^th, 2009 at 4:37am

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Sounds to me like you didn't get the job because they found someone else that was either more qualified or that made a better impression on them or both.

Sounds to me like you didn't read the rejection letter he posted.

It specifically stated that passing the polygraph was a requirement and that he did not pass it, therefore did not get the job.

He could have been the most qualified candidate of the past decade and be the reincarnation of J. Edgar (girdle and all) , but unless his polygraph was "within acceptable parameters", he would not have been hired.

TC

Posted by: Mr. Invisible
Posted on: Jan 5^th, 2009 at 2:22am

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Posted by: waiting Posted on: Oct 6^th, 2008 at 8:53pm	Mark & Quote Quote
has anyone gotten the final word on this? i have the same letter and I am waiting for my privacy act to come back, but I am very confused about the wording.

Posted by: Wowitsover Posted on: Jul 22^nd, 2008 at 10:29pm	Mark & Quote Quote
I got the same letter and called my applicant coordinator about the letter. She told me I have been deemed deceptive on my second polygraph. She also explained the new wording on their ding letter was meant to reduce the number of people requesting poly retests.

Posted by: nopolycop Posted on: Jul 22^nd, 2008 at 1:09pm	Mark & Quote Quote
Where you vote.

Posted by: goofbal Posted on: Jul 20^th, 2008 at 11:06pm	Mark & Quote Quote
Hello Fair Chance, I will defintely be writing an appeal letter. However my question becomes the following: If I was processed out of two different states for the FBI, which Congressman would I write? Would it be the congressman in the state where I failed the polygraph or in the state I resided in the longest?

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