nonombre wrote on Jan 26
th, 2006 at 2:42am:
Wait a minute, I'm confused here.
While none of us know what if any connection polygraph may or may not have had to this case, you all seem more than ready to jump in and blindly make comments like, "...It appears another stellar performance by polygraphers catching undersirables before they can become LEO's.."
Nonombre,
Law enforcement pre-employment polygraph screening typically includes a question about undetected crimes, which would include possession of child pornography. However, we don't know when the former police officer involved began his alleged collection of child pornography. It may have been either before or after his polygraph. But since he only started as a Fredericksburg police officer on 1 August 2005, it seems more likely that it was before.
Quote:Funny, I am willing to bet that in the short time this particular posting has been up, there were scores of confessions taken by polygraph examiners across this country from police applicants who were caught by the polygraph screening process. Caught engaging in child porn, sex abuse, rape, and all sorts of other sordid behaviors.
Do any of you even acknowledge this? No.
That's not true. No one denies that polygraphers obtain disqualifying admissions from some applicants.
Quote:Instead, you continue to vilify the examiners, comfort the poor "victims" of the polygraph method who all apparently "deserved" a police job and of course deserved their privacy from such an "intrusive" and "unfair" process.
Why do you put "victims" in quotation marks? Do you deny that persons who are falsely accused of deception based on polygraph chart readings and denied employment are victims?
Quote:You even publish ways you believe will enable people (even sex offenders and terrorists) to "beat" the polygraph. You are proud of this, proud that your materials have come up on the radar screen of the most murderous group in the history of modern man. Proud they have chosen your methods above all others.
"One happy family, I say."
You again repeat the libel that I am somehow "proud" that
Islamic insurgents have exploited the countermeasure information provided by AntiPolygraph.org. As I
mentioned earlier, I take no pride in this. Rather, I'm angered and dismayed by the unbelievable stupidity and incompetence of U.S. Government officials who continue to rely on polygraph results despite overwhelming scientific evidence that it is unreliable.
I note also that while Al-Qaeda and associated jihadist organizations are a formidable foe, they are not even close to being "the most murderous group in the history of modern man."
Quote:Yet, you continue to rail over the possible failure of polygraph in this particular case, hoping against hope that this guy actually beat the system. That would be a victory for you. Never mind his victims. They are unimportant. You have "won."
It is quite possible, if not probable, that Joshua Lee Jennings was a false negative. Possibly twice, since it seems the
Portsmouth Police Department, where Lee served before transferring to Fredericksburg, also requires a pre-employment polygraph.
Quote:So all I can say is feel free to continue to use this website to bolster your self-esteem. Convince each other of the "rightness" of your actions, massage each other's bruised egos while the use of forensic polygraph testing continues to grow unabated in the federal, state, and local governments.
Do you realize that since the birth of this special interest site, the use of polygraph has literally exploded on all government levels? As you all take joy in what you have convinced each other is the imminent "death" of polygraph testing in the government, the enrollment of federal, state, and local officials in polygraph schools across the country has exceeded the physical capacity of their buildings? Some are towing in doublewide trailers to service the added capacity. Polygraph is growing stronger my good friends and is in quite excellent health indeed. As the great American writer once said, “The news of my death is greatly exagerated.”
Continued Regards to you all,
Nonombre
I am well aware that governmental reliance on polygraphy has grown dramatically since AntiPolygraph.org first went on-line in 2000. It seems that the attacks of 11 September 2001 gave the polygraph community a new lease on life. But it's worth noting that since 9/11, the U.S. Government has also trained more than 100 CVSA operators. The fact that the government does it doesn't make it valid, fair, or wise.
You attempt to frame AntiPolygraph.org as a "special interest site," but we are a non-profit
public interest site. Truth-telling about polygraphy is very much in the public interest. It's the polygraph community who constitute a "special" interest.
When a government policy depends on universal deception, the truth is subversive. AntiPolygraph.org will continue telling the subversive truth about lie detectors until polygraphy is abolished.